About FOMO battle pass - did i already missed some stuff?

LostBrythunian · 2023-01-01T12:56:49.183Z

You ask so much.

For some people, it is exceptionally difficult to live with an incomplete collection.
There is a saying, not ancient, relatively (in the past half century if memory serves, but it rarely does) recently.

The things we own, end up owning us.

Or something similar to that.

It is so very easy for people to become the thralls of the things they acquire. An exceedingly dangerous situation. Instead of working a farm where we grow food we may eat, we pay for a pixelated farm, where we spend our hours making pictures we cannot consume. The level of detachment required to enjoy a thing without falling prey to obsession (on various levels) with it is a bit of murky territory.

On the one hand, we must not be ruled by our distractions, on the other, if we are not at least a little invested, having any catharsis will be very difficult.

You don’t mean it in a bad way, and it is excellent advice. But for some it is a supreme challenge to follow.

prologue1337 · 2023-01-01T13:59:45.119Z

I know this is true, I learned to live with it and trust me this was hard.
But in the end it doesn’t really matter if you own something or not, what matters is what you have gotten.

I mean, be happy with the things we have, don’t think to much about the things we can’t get, there’s a ton of stuff in the world that’s not accessible for everyone

You could argue both sides might be selfish, the one owning the content that want it to remain exclusive, or someone that what’s the same thing making it a common generic piece haha

auticus · 2023-01-01T16:41:54.215Z

We live in the age of battle passes. Either accept that - or move on and find a game that does not use battle passes.

Wielder · 2023-01-01T21:44:54.672Z

“You guys are being scammed, pay more for content than You should, get used to it!”
No, i won’t

Tuffman · 2023-01-01T22:26:26.374Z

How is paying for something when you know what you’re paying for a scam?

It’s not. If you don’t like the price, that’s fine, but it’s not likely to change.

Macron · 2023-01-04T13:16:43.455Z

Most stuff are useless cosmetics except the battlepass structuresthat are pay to win, and the immortal thrall…

auticus · 2023-01-04T16:07:26.121Z

Like I posted earlier - if you dont like paying for the things, don’t pay for the things. You aren’t required to pay for a battlepass to play the game.

If you covet the battlepass items but dont want to pay for them and that makes you mad - for your own health and blood pressure - go find a different game. More and more AAA games have moved to this, so start supporting indie developers if you want to stick it to the man or fire up your own game studio and make games that have tons of content that you aren’t going to charge for.

No one is being scammed. Thats easily the most laughable thing I’ve read this week. You know exactly what you are getting if you pay for it and you know exactly what you are not getting if you choose to not pay for it.

Wielder · 2023-01-04T16:30:08.399Z

Where did i spoke about paying things? Im talking about FOMO and predatory psychological ways grab people while having negative effects on metal health.

Please don’t tell me what to do, im allowed to speak what i think about it what i like and what i dislike.

People with attitude like yours are reason they do things like that and i hope it will be illegal in future (FOMO, lootboxes and other predatory ways…) People like You think its just fine that way and it gets gaming industry low and lower each year.

JJDancer · 2023-01-04T17:58:35.801Z

Wielder:

People like You

Well there must be millions of people like 'US" then, because the gaming industry and their BPs and Bazars are booming. You are like the little boy with his finger in the dike. Trying to save us all from ourselves. Please stop.

auticus · 2023-01-04T21:59:11.401Z

Actually no its people that spend money on things that you feel they shouldn’t are why the gaming industry is the way it is. I work in the gaming industry. I have seen the marketing data. I have printed off the sales reports. The FOMO and Bazaars make companies a shed load of money because most people are happy to pay it for the entertainment they are getting and it helps these studios meet their financials. Whether you hate it or not.

I also know from research in the industry that a good chunk of people screaming at the wall like you also pay in to the system just as much, so I don’t take much of what you are saying with any real credibility. For every one Wielder screaming red faced at the wall, there are 10-15 others putting quarters in the machine and enjoying their time that say nothing.

What you are doing is virtue signaling and screaming at a wall thinking you’re going to change the system while then trying to passive aggressively shame people that don’t think like you do in an effort to climb to some moral high ground.

Please continue screaming at that wall though. I’m sure after the financial goals have been met that Ten Cent will consider your argument and do as you ask.

SirDaveWolf · 2023-01-04T22:10:32.354Z

auticus:

The FOMO and Bazaars make companies a shed load of money because most people are happy to pay it for the entertainment they are getting and it helps these studios meet their financials. Whether you hate it or not.

Truth.

auticus · 2023-01-04T22:36:22.220Z

I’ll give you that, the descriptions are not the greatest and should be tweaked.

JJDancer · 2023-01-04T22:45:59.531Z

To be honest, I bought the Khitan set just for the gibbet, I could care less about the armor, the wanted poster, or the head trophy. I agree with you that the descripters are weak, but since you can superimpose any armor over dragon scale, does it matter?

JJDancer · 2023-01-04T22:50:44.436Z

People already know, it is cosmetic, will not have any bonuses, and will not be any better than standard armor. What you fail to undestand is people are buying for aesthetics right now, and are not looking for that killer armor set, because we know it wont be in the Bazaar.

erjoh · 2023-01-04T22:53:05.294Z

Wielder:

Im talking about FOMO and predatory psychological ways grab people while having negative effects on metal health.

But how is that any different than any other marketing when limited editions come into play? Sure i can get any crappy seat cushion now but there is a limited edition John Candy exclusive cushion out right now and if I don’t get it, I may never get it again. Your problem isn’t with FC but with marketing and capitalism. The problem here is that you view this as just exploitation of the psyche instead of a learning lesson for all to get more shrewd with purchases. We all have stories of really really dumb purchases that we learned from. It it wrong for a bar to have specials on shots midway into the night knowing the clientele is chemically inebriated beyond rational decision making? They do it. What about a car sales person that pushes special custom features that can only be done at the dealership? What about computer sales that push rather expensive security packages onto grandma because she only hears the bad things that can happen out there? All of these are normal business practices…sorry they are and each one of our employers do shady stuff to market their products (or vision/policies for you nonprofits/government employees). Predatory? Everyone just needs to calm down and look in the mirror of the glass houses we all have comfortably made for ourselves. The art of persuasion is flat out manipulation of others.

auticus · 2023-01-04T23:00:30.056Z

I didn’t realize there was a new armor set out. I need to check that out. A gibbet you say… hmm

Tuffman · 2023-01-04T23:04:51.115Z

FOMO isn’t exclusive to video games. It’s a very old sales tactic, and it’s not going anywhere.

Sales and marketing is literally an entire profession built around convincing people to buy things.

darthphysicist · 2023-01-04T23:16:34.242Z

Get it before its gone! Limited time only! Playing in your town this weekend only! Clearance sale! Once it’s gone, it’s gone! and let’s not forget happy meal prizes, cereal box prizes, trading cards… the list goes on.

Saturday morning cartoons were a very effective marketing education.

erjoh · 2023-01-05T00:37:48.512Z

Palm523:

problem is what happened to evertygthing dennis promised? a lie? of course it must be.

But what was promised? I don’t recall anything broke outside of p2w and that can be argued as how much benefit is there to some of the stuff… gibbet is something I will nearly exclusively exploit in pvp but it most certainly doesn’t give me an edge in raiding or defending. I’m not going to win any battles because you are having a hard time finding my base. I’ll win the war, sure but that usually happens regardless if I was wiped or not… same 30-60 days applies regardless. Either way they leave the server and I continue on. The 200k hp building pieces?..I haven’t been raided in the last year that didn’t result in wasteful explosive use wiping…I don’t see how this is going to distract the hardcore pvp crowd at all. All this will affect is the casual ones which were gonna get lessoned anyway. While I do see advantage, I would be very hesitant on calling it p2w…more like pay to be less annoyed. Also these things can be balanced easier as well in Future updates…even gibbet by decreasing the speed accordingly to the size (ie a quarter of the speed of a lesser wheel) the gibbet has a place in any play without fear of unbalancing. You pay in time for the space savings.

And then the errors…the missing hit boxes etc. Mistakes that will eventually be corrected. That wasn’t intentionally put in but are certainly getting exploited by disreputable types. But mistakes happen.

Wielder · 2023-01-05T05:45:58.300Z

As we can clearly see it does not matter in that case as that’s cash crab - even with that ‘shed load of money’ nothing really changed besides more cosmetics - gamebreaking bugs are still not fixed in time even if its just one value to change… They just simply not care.