Add server toggle switch for Old Purge

Aziza · 2024-02-03T19:08:26.772Z

I am very glad that the old purge is gone and it should stay so.

The purge was not scaled with your power. Having 5 Thralls level 3 and than a purge with skeleton lizwards spawn is way over the top.
The purge enemies made no sense.
The purge meter filled too quickly, and the purge can spawn when you are offline, which is bad when you have only a few hours play time on a few days per week.

stelagel · 2024-02-03T21:35:10.102Z

Aziza:

The purge was not scaled with your power.

Correct!

Aziza:

Having 5 Thralls level 3 and than a purge with skeleton lizwards spawn is way over the top.

Depends the thralls and the gear. If it was 5 Berserkers lvl 3 top gear they wouldn’t have issues with undead lizards. Yet…
Where did you get this purge? I never had one, omg give me more plz, even if i ain’t going to have it anyway.

Aziza:

The purge enemies made no sense.

I don’t get that. What do you mean?

Aziza:

The purge meter filled too quickly

And empty quickly too, all you had to do was leave clan recreate clan and purge meter was zero.

Aziza:

and the purge can spawn when you are offline,

This is something i read a couple times in here but never ever ever happened to anyone i know and play with. Are you sure the purge that attacked to your base was yours? People could kite purges to others bases. It was a standard “troll” in many servers.
Unfortunately the new purge didn’t avoid this troll behavior and the people who’s doing it have the nerve to feel proud about it and call their self server saviors… Omg .

The old purge system had lot of ups and downs. In the beginning the human purges were valuable because it had crafters that could make your life easy, or craft you gear no other crafter could.
This gone however, hopefully, because purge armorers were so freaking rare that could take you a year of purges to see one.
So purges became more collectible than useful for veterans and vicious for new or peaceful players.
I know a lot of people that were playing at least in two different servers just to empty their purge meter and return. When Siptah arrived they were happier because they had better reasons to play on different servers than just empty their purge meter. These people however, now really enjoy the new purge system and they became almost fanatics of it. They even do lvlX Purges.
If this mechanism be completed and gain a proper performance, more people will enjoy it. Imagine that it is pleasant even in this awkward situation.
So i definitely agree with you Aziza that the new purge has better potential than the old one and more people loved it, but your examples are not necessary either strong. Old purge left because devs had new plans, that’s all. If they decide to bring it back they will ask none of us, they’ll just do it.

nimbleshadow · 2024-02-05T11:58:33.115Z

Aziza:

I am very glad that the old purge is gone and it should stay so.

Why, though, if this could be an option:

DelRioServerMaster:

Make it a server-side toggle (so people can opt in/out) and I say yes.

This would be perfect, people who hate it just don’t have to use it and they can build square boxes with a chest in it instead.

Kapoteeni · 2024-02-05T12:55:03.419Z

Teng:

What do you have in mind?
I have PVP enabled, but there are no random purges.

He means the PvPers who will come to raid your base. It’s a better purge than anything the AI could achieve, and it can happen even if you’re offline.

nimbleshadow · 2024-02-06T10:35:53.334Z

That is true, PvP is better than purge for online crowd that enjoys it in CE.

But, for a builder / roleplayer:

-Old purge worked in all of my settlements and castles without me putting in effort.
-New purge works only with an absurd box in an open field and requires me to actively pursue it.

heaven13 · 2024-02-07T00:28:58.699Z

droch-aon:

I was really looking forward to the purge when I first heard about it.
And was so disappointed by it, I don’t have the words.

Funny, this is how I feel about the new one. Which is why a toggle would be great!

Kapoteeni · 2024-02-07T13:04:12.233Z

nimbleshadow:

Old purge worked in all of my settlements and castles without me putting in effort.

Old purge never worked well for me. Even though it was supposed to strike “the closest base to where youm are” on Single-Player, the Purge almost always waited until I was closest to my Swungle base, and then struck there. Or sometimes, when I was sitting stubbornly at a base I wanted to get the Purge, it nevertheless hit a random fishing hut along the Noob River, or a one-foundation-plus-three-ceiling-pieces bridge in the North.

But the new Purge has crappy rewards for the effort. They’re too random, and often not worth even picking up. I see no reason to let Isscar out of his cage now that I’ve done it once, so I just try not to listen to his swearing while I loot the boxes instead.

Noqturn · 2024-02-08T10:26:38.420Z

For us the old Purge was one of the most entertaining things in Conan Exiles.
We had it set to spawn often 10k actions and all maxed out - 60 minutes duration at max difficulty.

Players from across whole server were gathering to support the one getting Purged, it was a great social experience and lots of fun for everyone.
We could do something together in game while having a laugh on Discord.

If anything it should have stayed on private servers with a toggle ON/OFF as it always had been.
But nope, Funcom took it away, after all they know better what is fun and what we need… There is nothing to do in that game so let’s remove some content…

I am willing to pay for the Old Purge to be brought back to my private server.

/edit

The new purge is not a Purge, it’s a tower defense mini game. It’s bugged, and it does not destroy our bases = not scary, boring, yawns… And we have to actually launch it ourselves, boring AF…

Aziza · 2024-02-10T18:53:08.123Z

Where did you get this purge? I never had one, omg give me more plz, even if i ain’t going to have it anyway.

E5 north where the river bents east. I had hyenas (which is one of the types of purges that did not make any sense because why would hyenas attack a base… and why would they be able to destroy walls?), Rocknoses (does not make any sense either), Black hand (with 3 super bosses), Crocodiles, Exiles, and bone lizards and skeletons.
I should mention that that was basically the first row on the map where building was allowed on the server.

Depends the thralls and the gear. If it was 5 Berserkers lvl 3 top gear they wouldn’t have issues with undead lizards.

I was level 13 and they were level 3 exiles with iron swords and stygian infantry armor.

And empty quickly too, all you had to do was leave clan recreate clan and purge meter was zero.

Would be considered an exploit and not allowed on the server.

nimbleshadow · 2024-02-10T19:10:29.707Z

Aziza:

did not make any sense because why would hyenas attack a base

Why not?
In many of the Conan comic books, there are wizards and shamans who mind control different animals and creatures and give them orders, so who knows. Maybe they were sent by a jungle shaman, like those crocodiles Conan and Valeria meet in “River of Blood” comic.

MarcosC · 2024-02-10T19:24:15.485Z

The thing is… I don’t think servers could manage both purges…
I would like to have both options, but I am not sure that will ever be a possibility.

Noqturn · 2024-02-10T20:45:16.100Z

To combine old and the new Purge would have been perfection.

In the old purge the first wave, or couple of first waves could have been simply waited out. You had to do nothing, just wait for the timer to run out and purge was finished.

Often the Old Purge just wandered around near your base and if you did not go to them to catch aggro, the timer would just run out - purge finished.

The actions counter was adding a lot of atmosphere to Exiled Lands, my base is spotted, the meter is almost full, I have to get ready, they will come soon… It was cool.

My vision (I know it’s not going to happen, I’ve been here long enough):

bring back the actions counter from Old Purge
leave the camp spawning and waves rushing towards our base from the New Purge
make the purge diverse, like the Old Purge was, Stygian army can be reserved for higher levels, and bring nicely equipped and trained professional units
make the purge target the coffer as in the New Purge, but let it destroy anything in the way in the process like in the Old Purge.

Here, purge fixed + bring back the toggle to switch off the purge in solo/private servers, so builders and little girls won’t cry.

stelagel · 2024-02-10T20:47:07.055Z

Aziza:

I was level 13 and they were level 3 exiles with iron swords and stygian infantry armor.

I am a bit confused here. Lvl 13 purge?
Lvl 13 in this game, even from the very beginning, you were before you understand that in this survival your character cannot fart and you accept purge?
Then stygian infantry armor? Didn’t this armor arrived with the age of war?
Too confusing, i don’t know, i just feel that you answer something just to answer.
Yet, i get you no worries.

MarcosC · 2024-02-10T21:32:34.020Z

Noqturn:

The actions counter was adding a lot of atmosphere to Exiled Lands, my base is spotted, the meter is almost full, I have to get ready, they will come soon… It was cool.

Especially the first purge. We had a time limit to prepare, mainly people who like to go straight to the tougher areas, like the mounds. I loved that. It’s not that the new purge doesn’t have great elements. It does. It’s a cool idea that needs a better implementation. But it’s not a fit replacement for the old purge, not even lorewise.

Your idea sounds great. They could also implement a sort of convergence trap like in Siptah, but fueled by gold, so that people who don’t like the purge can avoid it entirely. Pay a toll not to be purged.

We will see. I doubt this new purge will be permanent.

Noqturn · 2024-02-10T22:35:36.309Z

MarcosC:

It does. It’s a cool idea that needs a better implementation. But it’s not a fit replacement for the old purge, not even lorewise.

That is it - the new purge does not feel like a part of the game, it’s more like an optional minigame inside the main game.
The old thing was inevitable and it helped to create the atmosphere of Exiled Lands, it was literally the only thing creating any sense of “danger”.

Even when combining both Purges as I described in my previous post is not an option, then they should have left the old thing alone and added the new one on top.
It would have been lore friendly, the old purge being the exiles and monsters inhabiting Exiled Lands and the new thing - new Stygian army invading to loot.

Aziza · 2024-02-17T18:42:35.911Z

stelagel:

I am a bit confused here. Lvl 13 purge?
Lvl 13 in this game, even from the very beginning, you were before you understand that in this survival your character cannot fart and you accept purge?
Then stygian infantry armor? Didn’t this armor arrived with the age of war?
Too confusing, i don’t know, i just feel that you answer something just to answer.
Yet, i get you no worries.

Erm… I was talking about the old purge, that one that did not have levels but was with location based enemies and started when you did enough things to fill the corresponding bar to a certain point.
(Which took me about 2 hours by the way)

Lvl 13 was my character level at that time.

stelagel · 2024-02-18T12:56:14.996Z

Aziza:

Which took me about 2 hours by the way)

Lvl 13 was my character level at that time.

You have to be more exact about the server you were playing. Simple as that you do not speak about an official server or single player with normal purge meter adjustment.
That was a challenge a friend here assigned me to do…

Stelagel is going to play Barbaric mode at 0.2x XP rate Creative Corner

@stelagel likes doing challenges with picture / video updates So he’s going to play Barbaric mode at 0.2 XP rate for your entertainment! (and his!) This is the only change: [image] Every other slider is barbaric mode default Cheers! Edit: Just to not spoil it with the new event stuff… You are not allowed to purchase Ancient Obolus weapons or slaves until level 40 and should you kill bosses before that, not allowed to use regular legendary weapons till at least 30 either. …

I played with 0,1 exp, not 0,2, still the first 10 lvls came up very easy. So in normal purge meter adjustment and settings to accept lvl 13 purge was impossible. After all you said it…

Aziza:

took me about 2 hours

In a normal purge meter setting that was impossible .

I am not trying to argue, i just explain that your examples have special - different adjustments than the “casual”

nimbleshadow · 2024-02-23T22:19:18.132Z

I have to emphasize I do like the new purge, I wouldn’t want it removed, this is not an argument about one purge being better than the other.

Just an option to have the old system. Don’t see why they should be mutually exclusive, at least in single player.

Bathory · 2024-02-23T22:45:00.879Z

You are right nimbleshadow.
The new Purge is great, but it should have been an upgrade to the old purge instead of replacement.

I’d pay a full price of Conan Exiles just to get the old purge solutions and mechanics back, I mean the action timer/meter. Also, the diverse enemies, animals, cannibals, tribals, and as someone had mentioned before, Stygians as the top tier difficulty.

Also the spawning is the biggest flaw of the new purge.
Dennis if there is no space for the whole camp to spawn, make it spawn just the cages and chests and send waves from that spot.

system · 2024-03-01T22:45:41.329Z

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