Agility on thralls and weapons

Hexsing · 2022-10-29T12:27:48.283Z

The wiki says agility affects ranged damage. Does agility on thralls also work on agility weapons? Like daggers, claws or chakram?

I have a named bearer who badly wants to level agility.

Strength says all melee weapons.

Asking because he is level 10 and its either cooked fish to get him more agility or gruel to try and salvage him.

Lucidique · 2022-10-29T14:41:43.065Z

Yes, the agility stat affects all agility weapons. I tend to boost strength personally, including pets. Mainly for simplicity.

Hexsing · 2022-10-29T14:55:01.972Z

Thanks. I just had no idea what to give this dude. Of agility works on thralls than that is fine. Strength on him would be crap

Lucidique · 2022-10-29T15:02:35.830Z

You can stack the stat you want boosted. I had a T4 fighter with a higher agility stat than strength before leveling. Geared her with strength based armour and weapons and gave her gruel. Once she hit 20, I force fed her rebirth elixirs until she ran strength perks.

Hexsing · 2022-10-29T15:33:23.171Z

So if I did go all agility with him. Putting him in Dark Templar for example and feeding him fish, Claws and things would still do optimal damage?

He has the following growth chance.

50 str
100 agi
75 vit
60 grit

So I figured Serpentis Chakram or Outsider daggers.

Lucidique · 2022-10-30T07:45:15.805Z

I’ve got one level 20 agility focused T4 melee fighter. Armed with whirlwind blades and a full bejewelled set (both T4 crafted). Her max agility damage bonus is at 91%

LostBrythunian · 2022-10-30T18:40:32.748Z

Just a side note, bearers, even named ones, have a hidden penalty to damage. No matter how good the stats, they are rarely going to be able to do much on the higher orders, especially in upper level zones.

Also, Thrall AI has difficulty with many weapons added later. They don’t seem to quite understand Shortswords or Katanas.

Xevyr · 2022-10-30T20:38:22.397Z

Hexsing:

I have a named bearer who badly wants to level agility.

Yea… like @LostBrythunian said above, if it’s a bearer… then it really doesn’t matter…

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Hey there! As some of you know randomly here and there I released some spreadsheets with (not so)“secret” data that can be helpful when picking / comparing thralls or fighting enemies. It’s sort of “work in progress” and I occasionally update or pretty them up. Anyway, since the links were scattered as small responses within various threads where people were looking for information, I thought I would make them their own topic so they’re all in one place and to help information get out and spre…

WanderingTruncheon · 2022-11-01T06:49:14.241Z

Yep agility works for daggers. Only way to get thralls to do any damage, really. Bleed bleed bleed. My named bearer thrall started with insanely high agility, its hysterical watching her flip around with her pack

Xevyr · 2022-11-01T16:05:52.284Z

WanderingTruncheon:

Only way to get thralls to do any damage

I can assure you, higher tier fighter thralls are more than capable of doing “real” damage next to which bleed becomes insignificant But yes, if you’re using a bearer then it becomes a compromise of no damage but high HP and inventory space.

Hexsing · 2022-11-01T19:33:10.164Z

I am using Serpentes Chakram and he is doing well. I am maxed authority. I have not corrupted myself yet.

But he gets in there and does his job. He is not any worse than some of the zerkers I did not rebirth.

Its not not his damage but he is super aggressive. Like he read this post and is trying to prove me wrong.

Good ol Tycho

Xevyr · 2022-11-01T20:06:01.788Z

Hexsing:

He is not any worse than some of the zerkers I did not rebirth.

He is He is a lot worse in fact. If you check out the spreadsheets I linked above… even the mightiest of named bearers would need ~450 STR or AGI to catch up with just the base damage multiplier of a Berserker, not counting any further strength / agi on the zerker So I doubt you’d get those amounts regardless of the rebirth potions used.
Named bearers have a 0.3 multiplier… which means what it sounds like… their damage is multiplied by 0.3 so less than a third of what their base damage would be.

That’s not going to be obvious on official servers though where you only see healthbar numbers if you enable them, but you cannot see damage numbers.

Here’s an example of a very average berserker in non-epic heavy armor and a regular star metal mace soloing the entire bridge event on an authority build, without any interference from the player, you can see the damage numbers on the left, I doubt your bearer can do that to this degree

WanderingTruncheon · 2022-11-01T21:35:21.753Z

hissss he brings the spreadsheets. he is a witch

Hexsing · 2022-11-02T13:33:21.760Z

I get ya. I do and I believe in your math. I have a zerker and him and he is tearing through things. We just did vaults at level 13 for him and he does not care. He is honey badger. I know he is not supposed to be good. But he is the most aggressive purse I have ever had.

system · 2022-11-09T13:33:26.199Z

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