# Battle pass feedback **URL:** \ **Category:** Feedback\ **Created:** [June 19, 2022, 1:45am UTC](https://forums.funcom.com/t/battle-pass-feedback/195321 "2022-06-19T01:45:22Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 1\ **Showing post:** 787
**Author:** ![Multigun](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/funcom/user_avatar/forums.funcom.com/multigun/32/90242_2.png) [@Multigun](https://forums.funcom.com/u/Multigun)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2022, 8:51pm UTC](https://forums.funcom.com/t/battle-pass-feedback/195321/787 "2022-06-26T20:51:58Z")
> [@Mikey](#): > > Discussing that is not at all the same as saying anything in particular is a rip-off. Sorry, I should clarify. I wasn’t meant to say “Mikey was calling it a rip-off”. It was in context to how I was explaining it and seeing people’s outrage over it. Like I said, FOMO discussions and the such, I totally get, I totally understand. But the misinformation campaign and people acting like this is the worse thing of all time, that I don’t get. Worse part is they don’t even need to reach into the misinformation bag to make their argument. Their are perfectly legitimate concerns versus things like, “they are going to turn it into a Battle Royal!” (Which that one made me facepalm, if Funcom wanted to make a Battlye Royal, they would just make a new game. Not turn a survival sandbox based game into one, that would actually be more expensive, time consuming, and less well received.) > [@Tenzo](#): > > I don’t mind buying the Sorcery update at the level of another Siptah expansion level content. But please keep this kind of nickle and diming outside the game I’ve come to love. Speaking of facepalming. You are saying that you would rather pay for Sorcery on its own (pay for power and content), then you would to have a DLC structure that is extremely similar to the one Funcom has been doing for 4 years with cosmetic rewards… I don’t even know where to start with that. Either you are trolling, which I don’t think you are, or its at the point where you just don’t like change. Not going to bother countering the rest of your points. You completely ignored everything I explained. I know when to quit bothering to engage in actual discussion. > [@Mikey](#): > > The problem - if indeed there is one - is that the model where you get one window of opportunity to acquire something, and after that it’s gone forever, turns some people off from the whole thing Its an understandable concern and worth discussion. Therryy wrote up a great explanation though that players with open minds should consider. This is probably the part of the anti-monetization I understand the most (FOMO). But Therryy’s thing is worth reading. > [@Battle pass feedback](https://forums.funcom.com/t/battle-pass-feedback/195321/738): > > I’ll write it down one more time since its seems like you genuinely want to understand it better and all i tried in this thread was to inform people from the companies pov. So lets start the essay, shall we? Excuse me, if the text gets a bit messy. Ill try to write it down in order as good as i can. First of all im gonna note down the positive effects a battle pass has for companies and players. In the companies case: this is what they aim for - not always is it going to be achieved. Thats rea… > [@Mikey](#): > > Sixty. And of those, twelve-ish will be free, and the rest have to be purchased even if you unlock them via gameplay. Though as Multigun mentioned, there seems to be some way to earn Crom Coins which you can presumably use to unlock those - maybe? Odds are he knows more about it than I do. So as I [wrote about in my recap](https://forums.funcom.com/t/developer-stream-recap-june-21st-2022/195648), there are 60 levels in the Battle Pass. (Which if you have concerns about how much grind is involved, you should look over the recap. Everything suggests its going to be very easy (as I attempted to explain to Tenzo). Every x amount of levels earned, players will get Crom Coins as the reward. Dennis said it was about level 57/60 (though subject to change as it was at the time of the stream) where the player would earn back enough Crom Coins that they can have enough of them to pay off the NEXT Battle Pass. So, I’ll try to break it down as easily as I can. - Player buys Battle Pass 1 for $15.00 (or whatever is, I don’t know the dollar costs) - Player levels it to 60 - 90 days later, Battle Pass 2 starts. - Player uses Crom Coins earned in Battle Pass 1 to pay for Battle Pass 2 - Rinse and repeat This is the part that confuses me most of all about the hysteria across the internet. TONS of players, including people in this very thread, have said they would be perfectly fine with paying for DLC’s as they were in 2018/2019 (season passes. Now if they think that Conan Exiles can survive on 1 $10.00 DLC per year as we saw in 2021, they might as well pack their bags now). In 2018 and 2019, 4 DLC’s were released each year. That averages out to about every 3 months. Every 3 months, is that sounding familiar yet? Lets say they bought the DLC’s individually in 2018 and 2019. $10.00 each, $40.00 total. If the Battle Pass cost even half that total ($20.00) at the end of the year, they would still pay less money. Why? Because they could buy it 1 time, and then use the Crom Coins gained from the Battle Pass every time following. Now those same players could use the Crom Coins on the Bazaar instead, but that’s their choice (that word choice, keep that in your mind for a sec). Players say they want cosmetic DLC’s every 3 months. Funcom says, here’s cosmetic rewards that come out every 3 months, and cheaper if that’s what the player wishes. Players then riot in the streets. That’s the part I’m not getting. Remember that word choice I mentioned? The same players rioting in the streets have more often then not said they are being “forced” to pay for things. Some players have reached into that misinformation bag to say you will be locked out of content that’s already been paid for unless you pay " a monthly fee." None of that is true. Don’t want to buy the Battle Pass? Don’t want to buy stuff in the Bazaar? It’s the same concept as not wanting to buy DLC’s in the Steam store, Playstation Store, or Xbox store. --- _[View the full topic](https://forums.funcom.com/t/battle-pass-feedback/195321)._