There is a difference between an opinion and an insult. I thanked you for the first, but you have been suggesting that I am simply whining and that’s a different thing.
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I have a question: Did the developers had ever changed something in the game for the players, because they were asking? Or did the efforts were futile?
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What you fail to realize is this isn’t a Developer decision but a Tencent decision. TC will look at the risk of if they will alienate players and what the financial risk could be in case of any legal issues. Everything has to be done legally so they can’t just change the Battle Pass because the few want the exclusive items that others have. So what is it from BP 1 that you want so badly? If you’re new as you say how did you find out about said item? At this point BP season 2 still has plenty of time to complete it.
I understand that the decisions come from the top, I know it. But do the actual dev team that is working on the game have not any say in this? Do they not look at the feedback of the players? Do they not care? I do not see any legal barriers. Yes, I am a new player, but I have already bought the game and the premium pass, and some items from the store too. I have played for 75+ hours in two weeks. I love the game. But I immediatly saw the problem. Chapter 2 they say. Ok, that’s nice. We are probably a few, who have missed everything from the Chapter 1, for now. But how many more new players will be asking the same question when Chapter 3,4,5,6,7,8,9 and so on will happen? It’s not a single item problem, like that Atlantis sword, Royal Armor or some special Rhino. Its around 40+ items and emotes and everything else, that is now inaccessible for me and every new player. In a couple of weeks that amount of forbidden items will double, then triple and so on. Do you not see a problem here? What are so exclusive about those players, who had an opportunity to play at the right time? I do not want to offend anyone. I am glad that Conan already had a devoted community at the start of 3.0. You are right, you should have the benefits and advantage, because you were there. But what about others? Do the old players prefer to keep that exclusivity and swim in their rewards like some Scrooge McDuck, or do they want the game to develop and the player base to grow, and the future of the project to look safe and promising? If there will be many new players and a fair treatment for everybody, not just for the vip club, will that not be better? Constantly growing player base will bring more money eventually.
As for me. I love the Gurnakhi set, medium and heavy armor and the saddle. I want to have an option to build and play with all those amazing arcane items and designs. May be I want that Fiend Armor or Namtarite Axe. Or to have an armored hyena. Or to roleplay as a necromancer with the warpaint and the undead horse. I want options, as any player. In Elder Scrolls Online for example they have pre-order set of items, and for anyone who missed the chance to get it - the set becomes available again at a store, after a new expansion completed and the next one is released. Why would not have the same solution for example?
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Yes, they did. Quite often, in fact.
That said, the one thing you shouldn’t expect is for them to change something just because one person asked for it.
That’s why it’s so important for people to leave their feedback, even if the same thing has been said before, because that’s what gives depth to feedback and might convince Funcom to change things.
Dennis said quite explicitly that they might reconsider their stance based on feedback. Just like @Kapoteeni, I’m not holding my breath, but I also know that if there’s no feedback, they won’t change anything.
So my advice is to not rise to the bait of those who seek to derail your thread with insults and turn it into a flame war. 
FWIW, I agree with you and @Taemien and many others. There’s no need for ironclad exclusivity, when they can get similar results with a simple tradeoff: pay a low price in CC (and grind the challenges) to have the rewards right now, or pay a higher price in CC several months down the road when that BP is old news.
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Passe de batalha e Bazar deveria ser DLC vendida cada capítulo em DLC mas a a forma que estão fazendo o passe de batalha é da mesma forma de itens resgatados na Twitch.
Desvantagem:
1 Não tem como jogar e usar os itens OFF-LINE
2 Não tem como usar itens que eu clan faz mesmo dentro do mesmo clan
3 Passe de batalha e BAZAR está extremamente caro no Brasil
4 Se a funcom desabilitar como já fez com os itens da Twitch todos ficam sem usar
5 Os itens não são dos jogadores por não poder jogar OFF-LINE
Entre outras desvantagens como BUGs e servidores oficiais AFK
OBS: Tenho certeza @Funcom_Community o passe de batalha quando terminar será repetido dentro do bazar.
NOTA: O Conan está saindo da história GOLEN com a vida de Thralls 21K Agora está explicado o NERF em todos os seguidores.
A FUNCOM deveria ter incluído a mesma mecânica de farm para todos os Thralls existentes pois os GOLEN vão ter essa mecânica.
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kkkkk Então a Funcom já havia dito que serão 3 capítulos apenas e após isso não sabemos o que virá e se será no mesmo tema de sorcery ou de vampiros pois existe a feiticeira vampira do primeiro filme de conan então provavelmente deve vir uma temporada de vampiros.
“CONAN E VAMPIROS BÁRBAROS: A RAINHA AKIVASHA – Muito, muito antes de Anne Rice brindar o mundo com Akasha, A Rainha dos Condenados, nós temos a Akivasha a rainha vampira de Robert E. Howard nas histórias do Conan, O Bárbaro. Lá nos tempos hiborianos, logo depois que Atlântida foi engolida pelos mares a vampira já espreitava e caçava onde hoje estão as terras do Egito.”
Indeed, it is. And that’s exactly why we, the consumers, need to make a stand against that kind of monetization if we want it to stop. Ultimately, companies make their marketing decisions based on what produces the highest profits.
I’ve bought a lot of “exclusive” stuff over the decades. In fact, these miniatures I painted were very exclusive, only one limited production run was ever made. But I would not feel any sense of loss or unfairness if another run was made for general availability - I still got mine first, I enjoyed painting them, and the price was fair.
Enjoying something only because some other people can’t have the same thing feels kinda petty. The more people who have access to the same stuff, the more people with whom I can share the enjoyment.
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Beautiful miniatures Kapoteeni! Thank you guys for the support. I trully believe that exclusivity is the problem that will only grow on, like some terrible disease, and in time will scare and reject more players than will invite them to the game. Every new player will feel less valuable, less desirable. And the game will close so much content for him just on the basis that he is to blame that he wasn’t around that time. May be he didn’t know about the game, may be he didn’t have the time. If that’s the road they wish to take, than I am trully sorry. In the modern world of competiton and consumer-friendly focus of companies - somebody will steal a potential players base. And it doesn’t matter how big the company is. Many titans and their projects fell, because they thought they were the only ones.
I am not sure what needs to be done next. Should I write a letter to Funcom, or make some form of players’ survey, or keep bringning the attention to the problem. Any thoughts?
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In my opinion it depends on how well is Conan Exiles doing financially. If CE would be doing badly, Funcom would be pressed to squeeze out more money by re-selling exclusive items. If CE is doing fine, then they will just keep on cashing in on player exclusivity.
As long as I can buy the next pass with the money gained from the previous one - Im good.
As someone who has those: trust me, they aren’t that great in terms of looks. At least without dyes. The executioners hood-style gurnakhi headpiece is nice; but in general gurnakhi armor just looks like an uglier version of Darfari - where its put together from bones, bits and pieces yet atrociously colored (who wants to wear lime green??).
The arcane building pieces are nice - except that the pieces are still based on sandstone/reinforced stone colors. Apart from the door the wall pieces still count as windows, which is an issue for those playing on public servers. Dont want your stuff get stolen through the window, do we.
Yes. My life and work are such that I should always have the time and opportunity to complete Battle Passes. As I’ve said before, the Battle Pass concept has been done in the least offensive way possible. But even then, it won’t help those who weren’t there when a Chapter was running. One can buy their way through a Pass while it’s running, but the previous ones are gone for good. And that kinda sucks for them.
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Its not a fair compromise. To charge 5 or 10 times the amount of money just because someone is new to the game or had to take a break for a while is neither fair nor plausible.
It would be better to make all battlepasses a permanent offering. Every one who missed out on one battlepass can still get it and play it for the rewards. This also would allow people with second or more accounts to level up those accounts in a more user friendly timeframe. It would be a win win for both sides.
Compared to other games with similar shop and battlepass systems the Conan community is rather small, therefore every account is a blessing for Funcom. I don´t know what their money experts strategy is but I doubt its as successful as they hoped it would be.
My other half the other day said to me: “you know, back then (he means before 3.0) we always have bought everything in Conan. Now with that prices we barely do. Its like they robbed us from something we got used to do for so long.”
And he is right. I have bought so many dlc´s over the years, for me, for family, for friends. I never once felt the price of an dlc where overpriced or I got scammed. Now I do not even bother opening up the shop. I will never spend almost 20 bucks for armor and weapons. Even the building sets are too expensive. It really feels like they took something from us. It no longer feels like we are supporting our beloved game, feels more like I am playing the cash cow for a greedy company. And I am not playing that game with them.
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Exactly why what they are asking for is a pipe dream. People like me spent money to unlock the BP so even if TC did cave those who want the items wouldn’t be able to afford them because the price would be super inflated. That’s why the argument for adding BP items to the store is a moot point. This is an unreasonable request. Now run this through their heads maybe the items will reappear in a future BP.
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BUT
I hope the stuff that has been in bazaar, will re-appear at some point. I realized yesterday that I actually want the expanded stormglass building pieces… which apparently have so far only been in Bazaar.
Sweet painting job on those miniatures!
I wish had artistic skill to do something like that. Time is always against everyone
I disagree. They can set the prices at the current level of similar items on the bazaar. That still will be a much higher cost for each separate item or pack, than the cost of everything that was included in Battle Pass. But you will grant the access for those players who seek to bring those items into their collections, and it’s worth for them. Why is it a pipe dream?
The problem is you can disagree all you want because I bought into and completed each battle pass which gives me the high ground especially after showing that everybody is victim to the same set of circumstances. The War Torn Rhino has been in the game a long time and as I said you don’t see me whining /complaining about it like a spoiled kid.
Ok. I see. I am happy for you, oh not spoiled/not whining Obi-Wan Kenobi that you have completed each battle pass and that gives you a high ground. Nothing more to say to you really.
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I just realized this as well, and am extremely frustrated that I can’t buy them. I’m willing to spend money on this game and it’s just being refused until a random point in the future, which could be many months away.
It’s outrageous policy. I’m an on-and-off gamer, usually I have a month or two interest in a game, play a lot of it, freely spend money on it, and then let it sit on the shelves again for half a year or so. With this bazaar model, they’re really getting less money from me, not more. Because during the time that I don’t play it I’m not going to get any FOMO. I won’t even be thinking about this game.
In fact, this bazaar model greatly reduces the chances of me coming back to it, because I know frustration is waiting for me!
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Tenha calma com certeza a FUNCOM fez uma FAKE NEWS “divulgando que são itens únicos e nunca mais voltará” ( A funcom está querendo vender e por isso que fez esse comentário de nunca mais ) As pessoas devem ter em mente que alguns itens sim vale a pena de resgatar como “gaiola “Bitwin” e armário arcano do primeiro passe de batalha” (São bitwin por ter vantagens para quem compra @Funcom_Community A gaiola por reduzir o espaço e não fazer sons que possa ser fácil de se localizar no PVP e o armário arcano tem o espaço interno igual a um cofre gigante no espaço externo porém com o espaço externo de um armário comum.
Tudo isso será revendido mas não será com o mesmo valor pois desde quando foi lançado existe um valor com um corte e mostrando um valor abaixo do que seria na realidade. “Se já está extremamente caro de se comprar agora imagina quando não estiver em oferta” A funcom com certeza irá vender tudo que se passou novamente devido a ofertas sugestivas dentro do bazar, confirmando mais uma vez que é sim fake news de se pensar que não ficará a venda novamente.
OBS: Para o Brasil está extremamente caro pois é vendido em dolar e para converter fica 5x mais caro que o valor normal além disso o servidor PVEC 1977 sempre fica OFF uma vez por mês
Mas recomendo a todos que pensem bem antes de comprar algo que funciona como resgate da Twitch que apenas funciona quando o jogo está ON-LINE diferente das DLCs que funciona normalmente em OFF-LINE tendo uma certeza que compramos e realmente é nosso diferente do SORCERY que não funciona OFF.
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