# Can we agree Improved Beehives are overpowered damage sponges 🧽

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**Created:** [November 25, 2021, 3:59am UTC](https://forums.funcom.com/t/can-we-agree-improved-beehives-are-overpowered-damage-sponges/183051 "2021-11-25T03:59:39Z")\
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**Author:** ![Lucidique](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/funcom/user_avatar/forums.funcom.com/lucidique/32/90010_2.png) [@Lucidique](https://forums.funcom.com/u/Lucidique)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2021, 12:09am UTC](https://forums.funcom.com/t/can-we-agree-improved-beehives-are-overpowered-damage-sponges/183051/21 "2021-12-02T00:09:14Z")

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And now I’m scarred for life. Thanks.

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**Author:** ![Mbeat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/4da419/32.png) [@Mbeat](https://forums.funcom.com/u/Mbeat)\
**Post date:** [December 3, 2021, 3:44pm UTC](https://forums.funcom.com/t/can-we-agree-improved-beehives-are-overpowered-damage-sponges/183051/22 "2021-12-03T15:44:12Z")

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Lol

So many different kinds of poo out there…

Such a scary world!!

Lol

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**Author:** ![Crompox](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/funcom/user_avatar/forums.funcom.com/crompox/32/87434_2.png) [@Crompox](https://forums.funcom.com/u/Crompox)\
**Post date:** [December 3, 2021, 3:47pm UTC](https://forums.funcom.com/t/can-we-agree-improved-beehives-are-overpowered-damage-sponges/183051/23 "2021-12-03T15:47:12Z")

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What scares me now, is the thought of all the illegitimate poos I have floating around out there.

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**Author:** ![Mbeat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/4da419/32.png) [@Mbeat](https://forums.funcom.com/u/Mbeat)\
**Post date:** [December 3, 2021, 3:48pm UTC](https://forums.funcom.com/t/can-we-agree-improved-beehives-are-overpowered-damage-sponges/183051/24 "2021-12-03T15:48:48Z")

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Me too brother…me too

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**Author:** ![CodeMage](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/funcom/user_avatar/forums.funcom.com/codemage/32/13564_2.png) [@CodeMage](https://forums.funcom.com/u/CodeMage)\
**Post date:** [December 3, 2021, 7:10pm UTC](https://forums.funcom.com/t/can-we-agree-improved-beehives-are-overpowered-damage-sponges/183051/25 "2021-12-03T19:10:33Z")

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> [@arthurh3535](#):
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> Since the beehives automatically produce honey and apply buzzing and bugs flying around it, I suspect that it would quickly fall under ‘impacting server performance’.

Not for buzzing and flying bugs, those are client-side, but producing honey means it has inventory, and that would probably be a server performance hit. Does anyone know whether the server sends all the container inventory at the same time it sends the containers to the client when they come into render range? Or does it do so on-demand, when you actually look at the container?

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**Author:** ![TeleTesselator](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/funcom/user_avatar/forums.funcom.com/teletesselator/32/97270_2.png) [@TeleTesselator](https://forums.funcom.com/u/TeleTesselator)\
**Post date:** [December 3, 2021, 8:26pm UTC](https://forums.funcom.com/t/can-we-agree-improved-beehives-are-overpowered-damage-sponges/183051/26 "2021-12-03T20:26:23Z")

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I _think_ it’s on demand. I’m pretty sure it used to be anyway - before the 60+ gig update (ver 2.6?). Thus why there was so often item lag [per container] when you opened containers for the first time after a login. Now however, it’s immediate so either they did actually change it or they just improved their net-code in such a way that it’s now instant.

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**Author:** ![biggcane55](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/funcom/user_avatar/forums.funcom.com/biggcane55/32/82620_2.png) [@biggcane55](https://forums.funcom.com/u/biggcane55)\
**Post date:** [December 3, 2021, 9:32pm UTC](https://forums.funcom.com/t/can-we-agree-improved-beehives-are-overpowered-damage-sponges/183051/27 "2021-12-03T21:32:06Z")

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I think on demand is correct, but then it “stays” cached if you are in LOD distance. Explains first view sometimes lagging. So in theory, as long as no one looked at the hives minimal impact. But ine could exploit with 500 and possibly crash server by purposely looking into each one. just a theory though.

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**Author:** ![system](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/funcom/original/1X/8d85ca8a66fb78fa7574e255b50aa722d634177b.png) [@system](https://forums.funcom.com/u/system)\
**Post date:** [December 10, 2021, 9:32pm UTC](https://forums.funcom.com/t/can-we-agree-improved-beehives-are-overpowered-damage-sponges/183051/28 "2021-12-10T21:32:38Z")

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