# Chests on Shelves? What happened? **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Tags:** question, roleplay\ **Created:** [November 13, 2019, 6:07pm UTC](https://forums.funcom.com/t/chests-on-shelves-what-happened/93686 "2019-11-13T18:07:14Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 7\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Velara](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/funcom/user_avatar/forums.funcom.com/velara/32/31086_2.png) [@Velara](https://forums.funcom.com/u/Velara)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2019, 6:07pm UTC](https://forums.funcom.com/t/chests-on-shelves-what-happened/93686/1 "2019-11-13T18:07:14Z")
Hey all. I used to be able to put a shelf on a wall and then place a chest on the shelf. It looks nice and it a great way to keep all my stuff organized. All the sudden I’m unable to put chests on shelves. Did this get patched? Anyone know? ---
**Author:** ![Velara](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/funcom/user_avatar/forums.funcom.com/velara/32/31086_2.png) [@Velara](https://forums.funcom.com/u/Velara)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2019, 8:57pm UTC](https://forums.funcom.com/t/chests-on-shelves-what-happened/93686/4 "2019-11-13T20:57:29Z")
Thanks. I’ll try working with this and let you know if this helps that way everyone else will know. ---
**Author:** ![Multigun](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/funcom/user_avatar/forums.funcom.com/multigun/32/90242_2.png) [@Multigun](https://forums.funcom.com/u/Multigun)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2019, 9:55pm UTC](https://forums.funcom.com/t/chests-on-shelves-what-happened/93686/5 "2019-11-13T21:55:31Z")
If able to mod, the [Less Building Placement Restrictions mod](https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1369743238) will help with this. ---
**Author:** ![NORfem](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/2bfe46/32.png) [@NORfem](https://forums.funcom.com/u/NORfem)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2019, 10:59pm UTC](https://forums.funcom.com/t/chests-on-shelves-what-happened/93686/6 "2019-11-13T22:59:51Z")
People lost chests on shelves full of t4s. so yeah its not supposed to be that way, a tea pot is for a shelf. ---
**Author:** ![CodeMage](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/funcom/user_avatar/forums.funcom.com/codemage/32/13564_2.png) [@CodeMage](https://forums.funcom.com/u/CodeMage)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2019, 11:46pm UTC](https://forums.funcom.com/t/chests-on-shelves-what-happened/93686/7 "2019-11-13T23:46:49Z")
> [@Zeb](#): > > I think it has something to do with the surface area of the chest below, it may be counting as part of what it’s resting on for stability. Just a guess though. Yes, that’s the issue. And here’s a trick to make chest-on-a-shelf work: 1. Put a chest on the floor. 2. Put a shelf on the wall, as close to the chest as you can. 3. Put a second chest on that shelf. 4. Pick up the first chest. 5. Repeat this “leapfrogging” process until the shelf with the chest is at the height you want. I’ve tested this out both in single player and official servers. Done that way, the chest won’t lose stability even after reboot – unless some other bug hits you, of course. > [@NORfem](#): > > People lost chests on shelves full of t4s. so yeah its not supposed to be that way, a tea pot is for a shelf. Uh, no. Just because things are buggy, doesn’t mean they’re supposed to be that way. Back in 2018, people were losing crafting stations and containers randomly if they were placed on foundations close to the walls. Place them on a ceiling near the wall? No problem. Place them on foundation away from the wall? No problem. Place them on a foundation near the wall? Russian roulette. The conclusion was not “well, you’re not supposed to place stuff on foundations near walls”. ---
**Author:** ![xavier\_pjg](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/x/dec6dc/32.png) [@xavier\_pjg](https://forums.funcom.com/u/xavier_pjg)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2019, 12:38am UTC](https://forums.funcom.com/t/chests-on-shelves-what-happened/93686/8 "2019-11-14T00:38:04Z")
I was able to do this completely fine earlier today ---
**Author:** ![system](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/funcom/original/1X/8d85ca8a66fb78fa7574e255b50aa722d634177b.png) [@system](https://forums.funcom.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2019, 12:49am UTC](https://forums.funcom.com/t/chests-on-shelves-what-happened/93686/9 "2019-11-21T00:49:27Z")
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