But wha is the purpose of getting to that high place? A place i can reach with full stam and climbing gloves anyways. Then change back to full corrupted. again there is nothing game loop wise for it. RP aside of course. RP can make everything “useful”. I am talking game cyclical loops. Like a rool to farm. You need them. Bats, a pure novelty.

If you run full corrupted it’s easier and faster to whip out a staff and use a spell pouch then farm up soul essence every time you want to swap builds.
Why even take the time to stop and swap builds just to reach a spot like that?
Not to mention toting around climbing gloves that are unnecessary. It is 100% useful outside of RP. Just because it’s not useful for YOUR playstyle does not make it useless.

This is exactly the problem. FC is only listening to what they want to hear, which is usually the problem with the easiest solution for them. In Conan:Exiles there is a very clear divide between the PvE and PvP communities. It’s practically a different game to each community. Each community has different needs and believe it or not the peoples in their respective communities usually tend to all agree on what those needs are. But FC just puts us all in one basket and then when they implement their changes based on community feedback it literally only half of “the communities” feedback so the other half gets totally shafted from the rear and they don’t even get the reach-around :man_shrugging:

There is no “one size fits all solution”. FC needs to take into account both sides of their product bc each community has entire different needs and wants than the other.

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Point in fact.

I’ve been talking to people about the upcoming changes to avatars and the removal of the god bubble. I’m a PvP player so I only talk to other people in the PvP community. I give my input, listen to theirs and just take it all in and get a feel for the mood in the room, so to speak. NOBODY, I repeat, NOBODY in the PvP community wants these upcoming changes. NOBODY. In fact the majority agree that it will “kill pvp” and essentially kill this game for us.

So where did they get that feedback from?:man_shrugging:The PvE community? I doubt it. Most of those players have probably never even seen a god bubble in real time. Most people in the PvP community just want a few simple fixes like base defense and removal of glitches and exploits. Who tf ever asked for FC to take away the god bubble and give us 10 minute avatars?

EDIT: if anything just disable the avatars. Life was so much simpler back then. And the god bubbles only other saving grace was the fact that it stopped arrows. Sorcery has made that a moot factor now. You can disable the god bubbles regardless, they are essentially useless these days anyways.

Look at how many discrepancies pop up whenever they change things, how many things they forget to change when “rebalancing”, etc. Here’s just one example.

Now tell me, if they had several sets of data tables instead of just one, what do you think would happen?

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@CodeMage that was a pretty good thread. I missed that one. Boy, Taemien sure knows how to take that ****in his own direction and just run with it. (And run, and run, and run) wow

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i ised the corrupted as a reference. I dont any sorcery, not worth the risk to have corruption health and stamina when there are sooooo many more eddecoent builds. Sorvery in generalnis jeavily tilted for RP.

I know plenty of people who play corrupted builds and none of us are particularly into RP.
It’s just a different playstyle and not every playstyle is for everyone.

You are missing the point entirely. I am not critiqueing rp. I am saying that imo the only reason Bats were added were to test flight mechanics for another FC games. Dvmevs do it alot. Sure you can use it, but it is not tied to any game loop at all. So chill on arguing a point that is off the mark.

And you’d be wrong about that being the reason. The devs aren’t completely incompetent despite the memes and complaining. They are aware corrupted builds lack stamina for world exploration and this was a tool intended to address that.
I’m willing to bet whatever flying exists in Dune functions completely different than these summoned bats.

World exploration is not an issue for corrupted builds, especially when mounts exist.
Combat is the issue. It wasn’t that bad before stamina rework but with new stamina, a fully corrupted build can’t do much outside rolling thrust perk attack and roll combination.

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You can do plenty without rolling thrust.
I still melee up with my thralls with corrupted build. Everyone gets the insane stamina regen and increased damage from legendaries making full combos not needed.

Maybe, from my experience alone majority of people I know dropped corrupted builds after stamina rework.

I don’t know anyone who dropped it that used it before and even know some that have picked it up since. It’s fairly common on pve.

oh…pve…ok nevermind.

Okay we are doing this then…
So what pve game loop do you HAVE to do consistantly that REQUIRES being on top of areas that you can only climb to with half a stamina bar (est. 100) and no gloves?

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This is pointless. You don’t have to do anything in this game at all. Every single thing is optional and different people will do different things to have fun. You have options on how to accomplish each goal. You could carry gloves on you everywhere to climb things. You could also carry spell pouches on you to fly up things instead. Just because you prefer gloves doesn’t make it the only way to do it or the best way.

What this is really about is you not liking that the bat actually has a purpose in game that doesn’t line up with your conspiracy theory of it being a test for Dune.

@biggcane55 if you’re the clan sorcerer on a pvp server then I’m sure you are going to want to participate in all the raids….most of which usually require climbing, like raiding skybases for example. I don’t know that the bat was designed specifically to alleviate problems caused by a half pool of stamina but I also think you’re reaching for something that isn’t there when you try to blame it on Dune :man_shrugging:

Edit: Joke at the comments of the deleted posts removed

In all seriousness, if the team at Funcom is chafing under Tencent rule… This is something that should have been considered long ago.
They sold themselves to their new master.
Exchanging freedom for stability comes with the loss of the ability make one’s own choices. Don’t worry, the new owner will tell you what to do and when to do it. They will manage the resources for you. With the stress of making the big decisions gone, there is only the anxiety of how to implement the directions.
Those who are used to making their own decisions at their own pace may find this jarring.
This one suggests against selling yourselves to masters in general, but will defend your freedom to sell your independence… However, this one refuses to feel sorry for those who do not like the shackles they solicited.

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Everyone please read the 2 flagged replies of mine. I get why the first was flagged but what’s wrong with the second one?