# Durability Loss from using Kits - Bug or Intended? **URL:** \ **Category:** PC Discussion\ **Created:** [November 11, 2020, 3:23pm UTC](https://forums.funcom.com/t/durability-loss-from-using-kits-bug-or-intended/147993 "2020-11-11T15:23:46Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 7\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Purgatorywolf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/cc9497/32.png) [@Purgatorywolf](https://forums.funcom.com/u/Purgatorywolf)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2020, 3:23pm UTC](https://forums.funcom.com/t/durability-loss-from-using-kits-bug-or-intended/147993/1 "2020-11-11T15:23:46Z")
**Game mode:** Online Public **Type of issue:** Bug **Server type** : PvE-Conflict **Region:** America * * * It doesn’t matter if its Armor, Weapons or Tools, anytime I use any sort of kits, (Plating, Damage, whatever), I lose nearly half my durability from what ever I’ve put the Kit on. I hope this is a bug and is not intended. ☹ * * * Please provide a step-by-step process of how the bug can be reproduced. The more details you provide us with the easier it will be for us to find and fix the bug: 1. Make Kit, any Kits 2. Place on Item 3. Durability Loss 4. Sadface ---
**Author:** ![Estha](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/d78d45/32.png) [@Estha](https://forums.funcom.com/u/Estha)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2020, 5:55pm UTC](https://forums.funcom.com/t/durability-loss-from-using-kits-bug-or-intended/147993/2 "2020-11-11T17:55:26Z")
yes, intended. Kits reduce durability by 25% since they got released. Except reinforcement kits that increase durability by 50/100/150. ---
**Author:** ![Narelle](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/funcom/user_avatar/forums.funcom.com/narelle/32/45919_2.png) [@Narelle](https://forums.funcom.com/u/Narelle)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2020, 6:31pm UTC](https://forums.funcom.com/t/durability-loss-from-using-kits-bug-or-intended/147993/3 "2020-11-11T18:31:14Z")
As Estha pointed out, this is how kits work. Most of the kits reduce by 25%, Master Weapon Fitting reduces by 50%. They are working as intended. ---
**Author:** ![Jim1](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/funcom/user_avatar/forums.funcom.com/jim1/32/17468_2.png) [@Jim1](https://forums.funcom.com/u/Jim1)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2020, 9:19pm UTC](https://forums.funcom.com/t/durability-loss-from-using-kits-bug-or-intended/147993/4 "2020-11-11T21:19:36Z")
I wish that were true; the OP has a valid point. I heard this rumor a while back, but never had a chance to test it. Of the three items tested, two exhibited a 25% durability loss (SM skinning knife and Szeth’s, single player/modless). Then I got to Axe of the Lion and an Advanced Weapon Damage mod and found this: ![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/funcom/original/3X/b/a/baf2dcc867731a48943a91b456386d8b392b3ed1.jpeg) ![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/funcom/original/3X/0/f/0f7df28494a64a945b107c445ceea9e068c32c33.jpeg) A 33% durability loss. Extensive testing or datamining seems appropriate since the loss is different for various equipments and kits. I cry. Sincerely hoping, probably in vain, that it’s a bug. Regards jim ---
**Author:** ![Narelle](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/funcom/user_avatar/forums.funcom.com/narelle/32/45919_2.png) [@Narelle](https://forums.funcom.com/u/Narelle)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2020, 9:33pm UTC](https://forums.funcom.com/t/durability-loss-from-using-kits-bug-or-intended/147993/5 "2020-11-11T21:33:41Z")
The formula for damage kits is a bit different, for example the one for advanced damage kit is as follows: (Max Durability - 150) \* 0.75. The full version is actually: (Max Durability - 50\*3) \* 0.75, where \*3 is due to the advanced damage kit being listed as T3 damage kit. Weapon and Simple Weapon are respectively T2 and T1. ---
**Author:** ![Jim1](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/funcom/user_avatar/forums.funcom.com/jim1/32/17468_2.png) [@Jim1](https://forums.funcom.com/u/Jim1)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2020, 10:29pm UTC](https://forums.funcom.com/t/durability-loss-from-using-kits-bug-or-intended/147993/6 "2020-11-11T22:29:38Z")
Which _seems_ to be reflected [here](https://conanexiles.gamepedia.com/Equipment_upgrades) already. Good find, Narelle. Relieved, but still sad, since it was -25% some time ago. Regards jim ---
**Author:** ![system](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/funcom/original/1X/8d85ca8a66fb78fa7574e255b50aa722d634177b.png) [@system](https://forums.funcom.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2020, 10:29pm UTC](https://forums.funcom.com/t/durability-loss-from-using-kits-bug-or-intended/147993/7 "2020-11-18T22:29:42Z")
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