[Engineer] Froob Engineer Manual: The Early Days


Does the epub book display look okay on your Nook? I obviously don’t have a Nook and am curious how things look for other people/devices. Are the images okay and display no differently than a purchased version from B&N - that sort of thing. I’m working on a mammoth book project with 129ish chapters and with images and hope I’m doing everything okay, because major fixes will be a huge timesink.

I must admit that I don’t often look at the download page at Mediafire. Having said that - I’ve hosted about 18,000+ map file and 2000 map file tool app downloads over the past 9 years at Mediafire and if people have been duped by ads there I want to hear about it.


Just tested by disabling Ghostery and AdBlock Plus on Chrome. In addition to the typical things Ghostery and adblockers work against being present, clicking on the download link opened a Roblox sign-up page in a new window. Similar on Brave, except instead of popping up, the tab I was using to view Mediafire was directed to Roblox (dot com).


I didn’t download it to my Nook, but read it with my Win10 laptop. I doubt it would look fine on my Nook, since it’s e-ink, and hence is black and white only.

It looked fine on my laptop. However, elevating form over substance, the format isn’t suitable for a technical reference document. I don’t know if that’s a deficiency of the e-pub format or if it’s because you choose not to provide chapter links.

For example, I don’t need to read the advice to newbs but nevertheless must navigate page by page. I do have a physical reference book for AO albeit woefully out of date, but it’s so much easier to flip through a physical book than a digital one plus has a Table of Contents. Attempts to mimic physical books in digital formats are misguided since you can’t fan pages in digital books as fast as you can in a physical book, and completely dumbs down the sheer reference power of digital documents.

I really think it would so much easier to use in HTML since chapter links are unnecessary since you can scroll through quickly, albeit nice for long documents (paging is so last century ; )), and no need to deal with flaky download sites like MediaFire, since you can paste it in here. Plus is a format us gamers already have installed.


I do apologize for turning you into a beta tester. I agree that ebooks aren’t great when used for specific purposes. Terrible in some respects for reference and certain tech papers (thumbing/flipping pages as you say). Excellent for word and phrase searches. I love them for things like non-fiction and fiction books; especially hardcover that weigh a ton or paperbacks of 600+ pages. I’ll destroy a paperback book by smashing and beating-bending the spine out of shape. I detest springiness in paperbacks.

And yes, this book is primarily a new arrival book. But I need veterans to read it and call me out on the bad advice bits found in the book. I spent considerable time sorting and fiddling with the table of contents - and trying to make sense of some of the non-sequitur that creep into my amateur writing.

This is how the table of contents display in MS Edge:


And in Icecream:

My Kindle is an older paperwhite - which means it’s black and white. It dispalys everything just fine with one exception - the table of contents is at the end of the book. This is a problem when converting epub to kindle format. And my poor grasp of the whole thing


Okay, I’ll find a new host. I’ve not been redirected or had popups at Mediafire. I surf with SRWare Iron with just a adblocker and no-script extensions. I did get a DCMA from a Spanish lawfirm because they claimed I was infringing on the Fast and the Furious 8 film in some manner. The file they DCMA’d is a map file 20kb in size and has been hosted at mediafire since like 2011. Now I’m wondering if that lawfirm isn’t part of a scam to steal personal info from me via a phont DCMA claim.

Moving the book is no big deal.


NP, I volunteered. :wink:

I hope that’s ok. I really wanted to help you out, not only because you helped me personally but are providing a service to the AO community. You seemed to take it personally that few had read it, but I really do think requiring people to install add-ons and downloading files is the cause, especially since Funcom has been hosting these guides for years on their forums.


I half expected a few people to at least comment after reading the book. That part I took kinda personal. 265 epub and 97 kindle downloads. You’d think I’d get more response than one troll (he didn’t even bother reading the book before trolling me) on reddit and you. Thanks again.

Maybe the host really is dodgy. I’m shopping a new host by the way. Maybe people thought I was offering a virus in book form. Who knows. I learned quite a bit putting this all together and hope to earn a little scratch on my current non-gaming book project. By a little I mean make maybe $500 dollars if i’m luck. Yeah, shooting for the stars, that’s me.


Changed file provider to Drop Box.


Will try to provide substance instead of form soon. Lost power Friday afternoon, which didn’t get restored until this morning, had Internet access briefly then it went down until an hour or so ago (bad storm).

So right now, I just wanna play :wink:


Not sure why this thread wants to lock after a seven day grace period.:smirk:


Sorry again for the delay - I found a new game, Rising Star, which is the closest thing to EQ Landmark I’ve found, and I’ve been looking for since it folded. After all, I choose engineer because I like to make stuff. : /

First of all, your Dropbox file loaded right up with no extra effort on my part, on my default browser, IE with very limited permissions, a huge plus for us lazy, suspicious types. I didn’t have to install anything special to read it. Not as pretty as your original link, but laid out efficiently, which I value more than pretty.

Now for substance instead of form primarily revolving around where you said:

If you find doing this sort of work boring then now is the time to consider quitting the game. Because we do this sort of thing all the way to froob level 200. There’s just no avoiding it. It’s even more difficult for subscription accounts to L 220/30/30.”

After giving a list of items with no explanation about why they are necessary (how fun is that?), referencing missions which aren’t currently explained in game very well (but once was the only game in town, just not sure if today’s newbs are led to them as I was in 2001), but are hugely powerful for soloists (along with daily quests), which your presumed audience must surely be else they would not need your advice, relying heavily on a out of game app, Clicksaver, of doubtful provenance last time I played http://forums-archive.anarchy-online.com/showthread.php?616545-What-happened-to-ClickSaver, although originally unquestionable, it fell into bad hands a few years ago but fortunately I had an old copy of it, although it appears AO Universe may have rescued it from the virus–plagued pages it was resting in, but haven’t personally confirmed it, but you should before recommending it.

i.e., you probably need to explain to newbs what missions are, and why they are important (good for people with limited playing time, plus the sided token bonus, before recommending a QL 1 electronicum, which I completely agree blows away the newbie weapon at level 30 or so, not sure if worth the effort before then and if it is, a friendly SL player can walk into a store and give them one), then explain what Clicksaver is (which I agree is very necessary, but fell into bad hands at one time, so need to tell them how to get a reliable copy of it these days, and explain the use of each item you listed, before telling them they are wasting their time on AO if they can’t handle it without any of that information.

And even calling them “Clicksaver missions” sounds weird to us old school types. : /


Okay, I updated the things you didn’t like and added a Mission Briefing in place of the Funding your engineer chapter. :books:


Do the links above go your latest revision?


Yes. The new epub and kindle version links are found on the original post.

If you come across old posts linking to Mediafire let me know and I’ll update those links to new and improved Dropbox provider.


OK, haven’t read all of it but did a fair bit before the sandman arrived and sent that via message. I’ve made some more observations but am not sure what the new AO forum message/character limit is. Think the old one was 25k characters.


The Dropbox epub link previews the book in it’s entirety. If you have a Dropbox account we could collaborate on the guide - and maybe form a guide group for “early years” character development per each profession. In fact, i may rename the guide to Early Years or something to that effect. All my work is public domain. No attribution etc etc.

I did this all to learn epub creation/editing and I figure whatever


Did you get the 2 messages I sent? I don’t have a dropbox acct. If you send me a msg w/ email addr I’ll reply.


I just now saw your messages. I committed the changes to Dropbox. I’m pressed for time today and didn’t proof the Kindle version. Okay, I really didn’t proof either version. But I’ve not had problems in the past. /cross fingers.

I didn’t include some things like the Tranquility dyna because it’s beyond the scope of the level 20-50 guide. Same with the pearl cutting and tips concerning daily missions. I even wondered if I should strike the part about the sentinels static mission buildings at Mort. By the way? i was the one who added that Tranquility dyna tidbit to the AOFroobs MIY hunting guide. Hah.

Thanks, and i’ll get back to you about msging etc.


OK, I’ll be around.


Updates. Also cover art.