# Frontier Ceiling Issue **URL:** \ **Category:** PC Discussion\ **Created:** [August 14, 2019, 10:57am UTC](https://forums.funcom.com/t/frontier-ceiling-issue/83945 "2019-08-14T10:57:57Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 9\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Anglinex](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/funcom/user_avatar/forums.funcom.com/anglinex/32/2811_2.png) [@Anglinex](https://forums.funcom.com/u/Anglinex)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2019, 10:57am UTC](https://forums.funcom.com/t/frontier-ceiling-issue/83945/1 "2019-08-14T10:57:57Z")
**Game mode:** All **Type of issue:** Mics **Server type** : All **Region:** U.S.A. Eastern * * * Their is no way to tell witch way the ceiling is oriented. It has wood planks in its design and without being able to tell what direction they are facing before you put them down you can’t line them up right. * * * Please provide a step-by-step process of how the bug can be reproduced. The more details you provide us with the easier it will be for us to find and fix the bug: 1. Build with them? ---
**Author:** ![Ignasi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/funcom/user_avatar/forums.funcom.com/ignasi/32/77658_2.png) [@Ignasi](https://forums.funcom.com/u/Ignasi)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2019, 11:44am UTC](https://forums.funcom.com/t/frontier-ceiling-issue/83945/2 "2019-08-14T11:44:43Z")
Hey @Anglinex Thanks for the heads-up, we’ll inform our team about this so they can give it a look. ---
**Author:** ![Caffeine](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/funcom/user_avatar/forums.funcom.com/caffeine/32/80775_2.png) [@Caffeine](https://forums.funcom.com/u/Caffeine)\ **Post date:** [August 15, 2019, 1:36am UTC](https://forums.funcom.com/t/frontier-ceiling-issue/83945/4 "2019-08-15T01:36:12Z")
> [@Jmb990](#): > > This is one thing that annoys me with building, I always delete a piece if it’s not facing the right way or the same direction as the other pieces, could be easily solved with a direction arrow added just to show which direction it’s aiming. This. You know how certain placeables (like a campfire) have an arrow showing where the thrall will be once it is placed? There needs to be a similar thing for building pieces. ---
**Author:** ![Jim1](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/funcom/user_avatar/forums.funcom.com/jim1/32/17468_2.png) [@Jim1](https://forums.funcom.com/u/Jim1)\ **Post date:** [August 15, 2019, 2:38am UTC](https://forums.funcom.com/t/frontier-ceiling-issue/83945/5 "2019-08-15T02:38:49Z")
Lining up ceilings used to be a real pain for me, would usually have to delete many, but then someone gave me a tip. Do it at night. You can see through the ceilings easier as you orient them, but if you are on the ceiling looking down, you may want to store any lighting inside the building. I rarely have issues anymore, but I do agree, the arrow would make it a lot easier. Regards jim ---
**Author:** ![Anglinex](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/funcom/user_avatar/forums.funcom.com/anglinex/32/2811_2.png) [@Anglinex](https://forums.funcom.com/u/Anglinex)\ **Post date:** [August 15, 2019, 6:47am UTC](https://forums.funcom.com/t/frontier-ceiling-issue/83945/6 "2019-08-15T06:47:14Z")
The frontier ceilings have no details on them before you place it. It’s just a big orange block. ---
**Author:** ![Larathiel](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/funcom/user_avatar/forums.funcom.com/larathiel/32/7589_2.png) [@Larathiel](https://forums.funcom.com/u/Larathiel)\ **Post date:** [August 15, 2019, 4:43pm UTC](https://forums.funcom.com/t/frontier-ceiling-issue/83945/7 "2019-08-15T16:43:42Z")
As much as I like the art on the Frontier ceilings and foundations, I never use them because it’s too wasteful and anger-inducing. Seems a shame to have designers work on buildables that bring players no joy and only frustration… unless that’s their thing. 😭 ---
**Author:** ![Jim1](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/funcom/user_avatar/forums.funcom.com/jim1/32/17468_2.png) [@Jim1](https://forums.funcom.com/u/Jim1)\ **Post date:** [August 15, 2019, 5:15pm UTC](https://forums.funcom.com/t/frontier-ceiling-issue/83945/8 "2019-08-15T17:15:02Z")
Interesting, and frustrating. It appears these are the only T3s that do not have _any_ direction indicator during installation, yet when placed, the orientation shows plainly. @Ignasi, it seems someone forgot something 😊 Regards jim ---
**Author:** ![Jim1](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/funcom/user_avatar/forums.funcom.com/jim1/32/17468_2.png) [@Jim1](https://forums.funcom.com/u/Jim1)\ **Post date:** [August 15, 2019, 6:32pm UTC](https://forums.funcom.com/t/frontier-ceiling-issue/83945/9 "2019-08-15T18:32:25Z")
In support of Anglinex’s report, see the following … A visual of the placing process in the evening showing no way to determine orientation. ![20190815131243_1](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/funcom/original/3X/f/c/fc38b3883c67f34eaf1cf22d55b13f0a8a48cae5.jpeg) A visual of the placement of several ceilings showing the orientation, having been put down sequentially from the same spot without any rotation applied. Directionality seems random. ![20190815131605_1](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/funcom/original/3X/1/9/19d23a419973deabb759e4690b18f97bc998e4cc.jpeg) Viewed from the bottom, I can’t see any orientation at all; it appears symmetrical in both axes, and I like the design. I also like the walls, the art is great. Not having used it before, I probably would because of the aesthetics, but will avoid it due to this problem. People _do_ use the ceiling tiles as a floor. Regards jim ---
**Author:** ![system](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/funcom/original/1X/8d85ca8a66fb78fa7574e255b50aa722d634177b.png) [@system](https://forums.funcom.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [August 22, 2019, 6:32pm UTC](https://forums.funcom.com/t/frontier-ceiling-issue/83945/10 "2019-08-22T18:32:26Z")
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