I think the budget increase for Dune is actually good news for conan exiles as well. I am assuming they will use unreal engine for both the conan expansion as well as the Dune survival game, which means they can share a lot of improvements, systems, netcode etc and apply them to both projects, im just not sure if the conan expansion has to stay on the same old unreal version as vanilla, do you have any clue if they can have the expansion on a updated unreal similar to Dune?
Unlikely to see a new engine version for the expansion. Iâm not making that assumption because I have some sort of insider knowledge or something. Iâm saying that based on business practices in the industry, and from basic understanding of game development as a whole. You definitely wonât see the original map use âthe current version of the engineâ, with the expansion using a ânew version.â Thatâs a logistical nightmare, not even the biggest of the biggest studios out there would do that. If they were going to use a completely new engine version, it would be a sequel.
Systems are all interconnected together, you change one single thing by changing engine versions, you could than spend months getting everything talking together again.
You are correct that they are going to use UE4 for Dune. Thatâs been mentioned several times in the financial streams that they are taking what they learned from making Conan Exiles and applying that to Dune so that Dune is bigger and better. And itâs listed as a hiring requirement on their job website for many months now
Dune I highly suspect will be on a newer engine (why wouldnât it be? Especially on a much bigger budget), but Conan is probably going to stay where itâs at. Thatâs just basic economics with game development in general. Itâs very expensive and time consuming to update engines, and you almost never see it in an established game. The exceptions are things that have a massive following, like a World of Warcraft and itâs millions of subscribers.
Makes sense, thanks for clarifying
Will Dune also have nudity option like how Conan exiles ?
Donât get wrong , I like normal portrayed nudity . Hoping no censorship plz
Thanks for the info @TheLOLxd2 good job man.
As to all the speculations and what not, I am very excited and for me whatever comes is a insta buy. My main issue in recent months is the lack of dev streams! I just want a crumb of wtf is going on. Even if its not expansion related or whatever. I NEED A STREAM OF DEVS!!!
Maybe, maybe not. But nudity is kinda built into Conan lore, with lots of scantily clad people in Howardâs books, whereas Herbertâs Dune series didnât try to sell with sexual themes. A strong, tough barbarian could survive Hyborian Age deserts for some time, but a person on Arrakis without full body protection would die in a matter of hours.
Dude, itâs also going to be survival game , it should have nudity option .
Look at other games like Rust and SCUm has it .
Nudity works in Conan Not just because of Conan lore thing because itâs also survival crafting themed game . Conan exiles isnât the first game to have nudity .
Relax. Kapoteeni acknowledges the possibility.
I think you may get âpartial nudityâ, but it may not include sexually oriented nudity. There might be a quote of the developers somewhere saying that Dune will not have the same kind of nudity Conan Exiles has, but I havenât looked for it yet - it could be in one of the streams itself instead of in an article.
Although Iâm not a hardcore Dune or Conan fan, it should be said that fans of Dune are probably more excited for the Spice than for nudity. After all, the game is focused on Dune fans and will be based of off the movies (which I donât think will go all out on the nudityâŠ).
Hereâs a crazy idea: maybe starting in your birthday suit is not the only way to have a game belong in the survival genre
Seriously, anyone who has read any of the Dune books knows that the survival aspect in the Dune setting does not include cobbling together your survival gear from rocks, sticks and plants. Pick any setting from Dune universe and theyâll all share one thing in common: being naked means itâs too late for any survival techniques, because youâre going to die.
Now, that doesnât mean the game shouldnât have an option for nudity. It just means you should call a spade a spade and say âI like having a nudity optionâ instead of trying to sell it as a necessary feature for a survival game genre
Not if you use the voice and make somebody give you their stillsuit.
This is a fantastic point. When using otherâs source material, itâs about being true to that material. Conan is sword and sorcery which anyone who knows the art of Boris Vallejo and Frank Frazetta should be familiar with the sexualized nature of the genre. Dune on the other hand is a messiah story, and while not completely prudish (Lady Jessica is a concubine afterall), it wasnât about looking sexy in a stillsuit (although she did in the movie⊠but I donât think many will argue for the David Lynch version to be canonized, as cool as I thought it was). So while you can undoubtedly remove a stillsuit where you would be naked underneath, being a svelt toned, well endowed character is not really essential to the presentation of Dune. One of the things I hope Dune does with body types is allow being extremely overweight, since Baron Harkonnen wasnât exactly a gym addictâŠ
Map âexpansionâ is the right choice! Glad to hear it!
We wonât have to worry about nearly as many new âstuck spotsâ or âfloating treesâ.
We wonât have to start building our bases all over again.
Player base and communities wonât be split up.
We can maintain a level of âexpertiseâ from veteran players that are able to help new players. Rather than everything being new.
There has been too much work on dungeons and stuff to throw it all away.
Horrah for a map expansion!
P.S. Please make an Anarchy Online 2. A legit masterpiece. If you can dump 50m into Dune, maybe you can do it for Anarchy Online 2⊠and make your own cash cow like WoW did.
Three months without a stream or an announcement is pretty bad. I know that the Funcom stock buyout is going on but you would expect them to be able to tease some stuff. Itâs very disappointing.
Ummm⊠am I the only one who read this part:
I mean, they literally said âweâre slapping a different name on this and thatâs allâ. Nobody said anything about whether itâs going to be on separate servers or not, or any other details.
So âoverweightâ shape option idea is ok .
While option to take off whole clothes to actual naked (with censor option ) is bad ?!
What ?!
Neither @darthphysicist nor I said nudity is âbadâ. By the way, did you also send him an angry DM like you sent me?
We get it, you like nekkid toons. Thereâs nothing wrong with that, a lot of us like them too. Next time, feel free to just say so, instead of coming up with silly reasons and then blowing up at people who are discussing the source material behind the game
No youâre not the only one, heh. And I am quite sure that it does not mean âexpanding the current mapâ, I think it means theyâre trying to convey that this will be more than your typical DLC pack, thus theyâre labeling it an Expansion (capital E). Just like games used to do (and still do, by the way) before everything had the âDLCâ label slapped on it.
grumble grumble
Which everyone was cool with, except nowadays people think theyâre owed everything for free. Now get off my lawn, dagnabbit!
Nudity on Dune is not okay - not because of modesty, but because the coriolis winds of Arrakis blowing sand at you at 800 km/h will strip flesh from your bones in a matter of moments. Itâs going to be bad in a survival game if you donât survive.
Also, when writing his Conan stories, Robert E. Howard knew that he was more likely to sell to the publisher if his stories contained some boobage, and he had his motherâs hospital bills to pay. Thatâs why we have plentiful boobage associated with Conan.
Frank Herbert wrote about social and ecological climate in a far future galaxy with a religious and cultural background that narrowed human thinking. Itâs not about what is good or bad or acceptable, itâs about what the Dune booksâ theme was. Sexual themes did not play such a major role in Dune as they did in Conan, and the games should ideally reflect the themes from the lore in which they are based. So violence, gore and nudity for Conan; and environmental consciousness and and oppressive political and religious culture for Dune.
I didnt say it was bad. I was trying to say that the way the nudity is presented is important. Dongs to the knees and enormous jugs? Not really Dune-y.
Nudity on Dune is not okay - not because of modesty, but because the coriolis winds of Arrakis blowing sand at you at 800 km/h will strip flesh from your bones in a matter of moments. Itâs going to be bad in a survival game if you donât survive.
Hah. They can make âNudity: Fullâ an option on character creation, then as soon as the game starts, you get a popup: âUnfortunately, your character had an unhealthy obsession with exposed flesh and is now a dried husk. Create new character? Yes/Noâ.