Getting temp suspended and stuff deleted

Conan Exiles Xbox Discussion
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Hello all Exiles! I’m new to the forum and I know there are tons of posts about this but I’ve not seen what I’m looking for anywhere, it may be there but I don’t see it. This happend about three months ago, and I don’t really expect to get any real justice from funcom, but wanted to ask community. If you don’t wanto read full story, skip down to the last few paragraphs to see question.
I have only played on Xbox but I suppose it could apply to any other platform because the question doesn’t actually apply to only xbox.
I began playing on private game with a friend, he quit playing and I decided to try public, official server. After playing around for a while, I met some cool people, joined a clan, found a spot I liked and began playing and building my perminate camp. After seeing the size of many others builds, I layed out my plan (not nearly as large as some) and gradually started building with sandstone first, because it was just easier to collect stone and wood, and I didn’t have enough of the advanced materials to build the one of my choice at the time. I’d build and upgrade here and there as I played, like many I suppose, but still had some of my general layout, in sandstone, that I hadn’t gotten too yet. I have heard others talk about lag due to large builds, and I had no lag and none of my friends who visited to check out my build complained aobut lagging. There were a few neighbors that I didn’t really know, but we communicated a few times via xbox message. I was getting closer and closer to finishing, after six months of grinding out materials. I waited until almost the very last to build a maproom and teleport. It wasn’t a week after I put up my teleport and I logged off one day, logged back in the very next and got the message, suspended for blocking something or land claim stuff…I think most everyone knows the actual text one gets. So kicked off for 7 days. I looked into contacting to appeal, but found they will not entertain any appeals for suspensions. I do not believe I broke any rules at all, but it happened. So I spoke to my clan leader and other members of my clan about it, and they were so they knew I wasn’t going to be on, and they didn’t see any reason I got put in the dog house for that reason and they didn’t believe I had broken any rules either.
I’m not 100% aobut the decay timers but i figured 7 days and everything would decay, but my clan told me as long as one of them went to my camp it wouldn’t degrade. Ok cool! One of them tried to use the teleport to go but my teleport wasn’t showing up in theirs. Hmmm, strange… so the made the trip on horse and found my entire camp was gone. This all happened the same day I got notified I was suspended.

Now, at this point I realize, I’ve been told I broke the rules, was suspended and all of my work, including everything I had collected and had in cupboards and storage boxes, work benches and everything, deleted, with no chance to appeal, at all. And I still don’t think I broke any rules.

Reading the information posted about suspensions and bans, it doesn’t say anywhere everything would be deleted from the server. It only says no access for the 7 days. Again, no appeal process for this.
Has anyone experienced this?
Please disregard grammer and spelling errors.
Thanks in advance for your input.

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Did you check your event logs after logging back in?

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Your first mistake is the “but it’s not as big as some others!” mentality. Huge bases still standing does not mean that it’s okay.

As for “but theres no lag!” You have to understand something - YOU are least likely to lag in your own base because it’s the first thing you load when you open the game. For other players, however, massive and over decorated bases can cause issues when approaching them or attempting to play near them.

“But my one friend didn’t lag!” well your one friend may be running a better system than others, or any of the other variables here, or simply the fact that they wouldn’t tell you if they were lagging because :sparkles: friends :sparkles:

In addition, without knowing where this location was, if you got wiped it was for good reason regardless. “Laying out a plan” can easily just be foundation spam. The fact that you immediately are defensive about the size tells me it’s probably that. But, there’s also the issue of in-game content. People will build right over lorestones, emotes, etc or lag out an important area (like Freya’s hovel in some servers at the moment, smh.) And, maybe it was an area you didn’t even realize was important. Regardless, you did it. Suck it up and move on. Dwelling on it changes nothing.

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Did you read the ToS?

I’ve haven’t gotten one in 7 years.

I will also point out the issue with big builds isn’t so much the lag, it’s what you fill them with that causes the lag.

None the less there is an excessive land claim rule people are unaware for till :hammer_and_pick: And yes offending builds do get wiped.

This issue has been discussed at length. Only funcom can do anything but they seem disinclined.

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That’s kind of like saying:
“I know you said I would have to serve a month in jail, but you never said I would lose my job.” :roll_eyes:

The punishment of being suspened from the official servers is litterally, all of the consequences of being gone for the length of the suspension. I’m sorry for your lose, but the best remembered lessons in life are the ones that we paid dearly for. Based on your reaction to the price you’ve paid, I feel fairly confident that you will do everything in your power to follow the rules moving forward. Now, if only ‘everyone else’ would follow the rules, it would be a much better gaming experience for eveyone.

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Since the OP is on console, thats a limited excuse, and if one generation of xbox is that much worse then others, they need to revamp the rules because its unfair to punish people on new gen consoles because old gen consoles lag.

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Hey, just wanted to let you know I read your post as a request for information, not a complaint and wanted to answer in that vein.

What most likely happened is that your build was reported and admin wiped. There are no definitive rules for building so we can’t give your a solid answer but public official servers are not actively managed. The staff will only review a build as the result of a reported violation. This means a base right next yours may be significantly larger but will not be wiped of there is no report made.

It can be frustrating but I would encourage you to continue play and just be conscience of the ever present reporting system.

Best of luck.

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Oh my flocking sheep, build limits are about more then just possible lag. If it was just about the lag we would have rules about the things that actually cause it.

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If old gen systems cant handle builds within the rules, they need to make changes. Its thats simple.

Like the test I did last year when I got my 4090 and new processor. I went on to a server people on the forums complained about laggy bases. I asking in game chat for the worst locations. I went there and had no lag.

Your system matters

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:roll_eyes::roll_eyes::roll_eyes: skims over PC master race bologna

You literally pop into threads to find one minor random thing to argue. I’m 99% sure you’re half the reason my post a few days ago was shut down by Funcom.

Just stop.

Old and new gen OBVIOUSLY have different capabilities.

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But the part you consistently fail to comprehend is that rule really isn’t about causing lag. You’ve made it abundantly clear you will never understand that.

The issue isn’t big builds, it’s funcoms failure to properly moderate the public servers.

The “If everyone else wasn’t jumping off the bridge, I wouldn’t think to do it” defense.

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Series S struggles on graphics intensive games (not just Conan). The S is designed as an entry level console and for people on a budget. A lot of the issues that affect the Series S aren’t there on a Series X. They’re both the same generation and the same manufacturer, but under the hood, they’re completely different. It’s like comparing a Dodge Challenger to a Demon 170

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Exactly.

Series S will lag a little with pretty normalish-big bases and we literally accept it. Nobody on a series S is running around being the Lag HOA and taking down names of every base that lags so we can file complaints lol

We lag sometimes. We know. It’s our lot in life :joy:

What is not okay is me, series S player, running toward a quest area or something, and I see a door suddenly load in in the distance about ten stories high… Pause… Dashboard. I’ll let you sort that one out. That’s what’s not okay.

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Youre here too arent you?

Yes, and thats why there needs to be adjustments made on the rules, because we all know sub par systems cant handle the game like newer systems can. Ive argued this point for years now, and still some people are against it. This is a potential result of that, and heck, it is a guaranteed result on PC.

Wanna bet? There absolutely is, just like there is people that do that on PC. Some people feel the need to be server police. Deny it all you want, but it happens.

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What would Funcom have to moderate? Would it be builds that (sometimes) subpar systems encounter?

Would it be a players build that gets reported? Answer with a simple yes or no.

Jesus, thats so laughable wrong. Go brush up on the ToS.

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That because funcom pathetic rules i already talked many times they need to change the rules , optimize the game and make rules simple they need to remove all rules about builds , big builds , bridges , ways , building in map marks and building in the useless chests.

They need to make places where you learn recipes and dances in no-build places , they need let just the rules about walling other people bases , huge spamming , blocking content / resourse , building in mesh or flying bases reportable.

In ark theres just SIMPLE rules and we dont have problems with old people trying to police servers or crying in forums theres almost no lag compared with conan and theres no moderation in servers like DeaconElie are asking to have in conan , and in ark when something are wrong they come in contact with you.

With rules simple people will learn to play and will stop caring about what other players are building or doing , we wont will see anymore post in forum about players begin banned by building bridges or mass reported in pvp or because builded in a map mark or because someone with a old console are lagging.

Remember when building in world bosses are banned? Everyday was a post in forum about someone crying about a boss blocked , so funcom removed this rule and now how many people did you see crying in forum about a world boss blocked? Nobody…

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Yes, I had clanmate check it on the same day.

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I honestly don’t know if you’re being serious or a troll, since you obviously read at least part of my post but did not answer the actual question I asked. Judging by your response, a troll. I make this assessment based on the fact you are just being judgmental about the size of my base, and focusing on that alone, also, not actually knowing the size or location. This is the only logical conclusion. It also leads me to believe you have older hardware and possible a low speed internet connection causing you to experience problems and you are angry about that. If that is the case, you have my empathy. That said, you didn’t even try to answer the question, which was… Has anyone experienced this? Meaning, Has anyone been suspended on that basis and everything deleted at the same time?

Commenting on my mentality about base size, you have no idea of my mentality. I actually put serious thought into the size, even asked others what they thought regarding the matter. Obviously I can’t take a user poll across all players, but gave it real consideration. Because of this, I really have no need to be defensive about the size as mine was about 1/3 the size of most. Yet again, I wasn’t even asking about size constraints, limitations or even the actual suspension.

In actuality, I think I know the person who made the report because we know each other personally and had a falling out in real life. I think he got angry and knew he could create a false report and get me suspended. If I could prove it, I would and I would report him so he couldn’t do it to anyone else. But I say again, that is and was NOT my issue or question.

Since you wanted to focus your response on my overly large base I’ll say this. Like any new player, I based my belief that my base wasn’t too large and not against any rules because of those I saw around the map. A logical thought. Maybe everyone’s base was too large. How would a new player even know since there is no actual standard or guidelines for a player to know. If I thought I was causing anyone problems, I would have indeed not built my base to a point of causing problems or if someone told me, I would have changed it. I can build huge elaborate bases on my private game. So, with no actual guidance or set limitation I made my build to what I thought was a reasonable size. I made a logical reasonable choice for the location, size and layout based on all the available information I had, which is, since there are zero guidelines or limitations set by the coders or in any actual rules, those around the map.

Personally, I really enjoy seeing other’s creations, large and small, and hope they enjoy seeing mine. I leave doors open, and sometimes no doors at all so others can view what I have done. Perhaps, unlike many others, I do care if what I do affect others. I would never want to degrade another players game experience on purpose. So I say again, not defensive about the size just how I got to the decision on size.

I suppose my logical thought of “mine being smaller that most”, in hindsight, wasn’t the best deduction but it was the only way for me to decide. How is one to know if one, as a new player, who isn’t having their own issues? I did find that braziers and torches cause a ton of lag, so I choose not to use them. I don’t assume anything when it comes to what people think. I find most people, if informed about something causing problems, will correct the issue without any push back at all.

You are correct when stating people build over and around things they shouldn’t. In my case, that is not the situation. I have seen others build over lore stones and some of the green ghost indicators, and I knew that was wrong. I ensured mind did not. If it was indeed too large and considered a land claim abuse, I was unaware, again because there are zero guidelines to let me know it was and no one was telling me it seemed to be too large. If it was I accept that, however, how does one know other that to look around and see what others have done. So if someone does build a super large base that is causing others problems, how does one know unless someone informs them of that fact? I know, just delete it and let them know they broke some arbitrary set of rules, for which there are no set guidelines or standards to let them know ahead of time.

I do understand how lag works in game systems, for both PC (Windows, Linux and IOS based systems) and consoles. I have been working with hardware and software since the early 1980’s. I have a good understanding of both. My base, while large, wasn’t that large and it most assuredly wasn’t overly decorated. As far as friends not lagging, if they were, they would say, its just that simple.

You’re right, you don’t know the location, therefore, you can’t make assumptions about possible building over in game content that shouldn’t be encompassed within a player build. Which I did not, of this, I am 100% certain. The location is G8, above the shattered basin, right on the edge overlooking the desert. It included the tan sand area and part of the green. If that helps understand where it was, or matters. All of my pieces were connected and not a random bunch of bits thrown down, so it did look like a specific foundation build, just not upgraded to the style of choice. And it did have structures on the majority of the foundation.

Finally, you again make another assumption, that I did it. As stated above, I didn’t break the rules and I believe I know who made the report that caused the suspension, and yet again, not my question. Suck it up? Really? This is not helpful in any aspect of what I asked. You should consider a proper response to posts made asking for input and don’t comment on things unless you’re actually trying to be helpful. Feel free to NOT respond to this post, unless you want to provide an answer to the actual question I asked.

Have a nice day.

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FAFO :joy:

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To all who responded,
I really thank you for your input. I also play Fallout 76, the build limitations are set for camps, and it is very small, but you can have shelters where, even though they have limatations, you can build even more. Played Ark with my grandkids a bit but never really got into it.

I really like Conan and haven’t played since it happened. I do not want to create a bad experience for anyone, but I want to do all I can do within the game. I don’t cheat and don’t try to break the system just to see what I can do. I still have a lot to do in the Exiled Lands and then want to jump to Siptah and run through that as well.

How do we, as players, know what is going to be considered a bad land claim? How do we know what is too large? I would rather figure it out and not have to get another suspension and lose everthing again. I’d rather not have funcom create a limitation size for builds. I know these thinges are discussed throughout the fourms but it seems no one can actually say. It all seems very random on what’s too big and what can cause land clam violations, other than the obvious, blocking others or blocking in game content that hinders others. We can’t just decide as a gaming commuity and expect funcom to go with what we’ve decided. There will always be some random player that has a bad experience or is just one of those people who what to abuse the reporting system.

Of course it would be nice if a player could get an email saying, “your base is to frggin big, you need to reduce it by this much”, or you have built over something important for others, move your base or it will be deleted. Anything to at least help the people who have decided to play their game, let alone those of us who purchased a license for the full game. Seems if you’re a game creator, after the game and it’s functionality, your players should be at the top of the list of things to put the time in to understand and help them with the best possible experience.
A little communication carries things a long way.

How does everyone decide on the size of their builds?
Do you make a single build/camp?
Do you have many builds/camps around the map? I’ve seen lots of people have 3, 4, 5 different camps around the map, some large, some small. Sometimes just a teleport.
What are suggestions and thoughts?