My point exactly. No one should ever do this, because it puts you on the same field as them.
Um…
Ok.
While I agree with you, I’m pretty sure it’s because he is insisting on using ‘hacker’ in the old 1970s sense of people that seek to ‘investigate technology’ (the old ‘information wants to be free’ crowd). We all know what is meant by ‘hackers’ in the context of this conversation, but he is too busy splitting hairs over the definition to understand what a jackass it makes him appear. It’s absolutely as delusional as if I was to insist on using it in the sense of meaning ‘someone who rides cross-country on horseback’, but at least that’s what I think he is trying to do…
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This; and,
The terminology of “hacker” has 100% become synonymous with any player that uses injection programs, not only those that are able to break into the inner workings of the code and manipulate them on their own. The hacking in Conan is by and large simply using those injection programs, for sure, but everyone refers to them, understands them as, and agrees that they are hackers. Even Funcom refers to them as such.
This person does not agree and will obfuscate any discussion about it.
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Yes… and if you go ahead and ask him what he means by hackers… he will explain in a very convoluted and broken way that it has nothing to do with people who use cheats in videogames made by others, but he’s referring to high level IT security experts… and you’ll realize he’s been wasting your time.
That’s simply what he does… you can’t take anything he says at face value as he’s always talking about something completely unrelated to the topic.
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If you ever get to the point where he communicates clearly enough to understand him. He does that everywhere, not just on these forums. The difference is that most other places don’t tolerate his disruptive behavior and take his posting privileges away.
So yeah, this is one of those cases where it’s best to avoid engaging. Let him post cryptic nonsense and move on. The extremely infrequent moments when he does actually post something relevant to the topic at hand are just not worth it.
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You know, I’ve always seen his post and said “dafuq is this moron babbling about? This has nothing to do with anything what so ever” and then proceeded to completely forget that he posted anything at all. 
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Didn’t this thread have something to do with how to respond to hackers?
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Or serial spammers in ur case
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O_o
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As some on here have figured out I give what I get.
I also have issues with not arguing with people I feel are horribly wrong. In a server chat I can usually ignore stuff, i just turn it off. But if some one gives someone gives some very wrong info I will correct them; like “oh you need to be X level to open the barrow kings door”. Now if said individual posts back at me hostile
HERE
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Same with hackers. You come at them hostile and you just turned them on. It’s best to just not engage.
Possibly.
But 95% of the players in games dont care about the exact precise terminology of words. Hackers mean cheaters, means people injecting scripts, means people exploiting, players duping etc. It doesnt matter, your cheating, your a hacker. Both are stains on multiplayer games.
See my above paragraph. No one cares about being high level computer experts. Were here to play a game, not to see who can stick their nose up in the air the highest because they are the most educated.
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Oh I entirely agree (hence my reference to horse-riding - the term hack meant that long before it meant what he means by it, and is probably still used that way by more people than his specialised version - I’m tempted to start insisting on it every time he pulls this nonsense - but that would just derail things further, so better not to). And I’m sure Xevyr gets that too - we’re just acknowledging that we recognise the language game he’s trying to play, but it’s irrelevant in the modern world and everyone (except maybe him) knows exactly what is meant these days when someone refers to hacks/hackers.
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Well your wrong, the number I pull out of my hat is 37.54%
The only thing I’d like to clarify is that one should make the video hidden/unlisted, so it can only be reached via the direct link. We don’t want to give those cheaters any publicity on Youtube, or Crom forbid, give other people any bright ideas they could adopt.
Once again, thank you so much for continuing to be a helpful and constructive member of the community, Kikigirl.
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Youd be wrong. You seriously think the vast majority of gamers know the ins and outs of coding, know all terminology, know how things work etc…
Or is the majority there to play games, and dont know the proper ways of everything?
If I was a betting man, Id say my number is far closer to correct then yours.
That would be an opinion.
Which has what to do with using accepted proper terms?
Blue foot bob decoupled fir postmortem ambidextrous.
Sure if I win you quit the internet. Now prove I’m wrong or I win.
Why do you not know an opinion is not a fact?
In the early days, almost everyone was adept because we tweaked our machines to run Conan Exiles optimally. Also, a lot of us were collaborators or creators, so we ran multiple mochines and accounts in order to interface better with Exploit Hunters. Generally as time has gone by, we’ve seen the adepts leave and the casual PC users arrive, which is good. A sign of relative stability, and console access.
The terminology is crucial, though. I can’t tell you how many hundreds of gamers have reported “hackers” to me, when they mean “exploiters.” Except for the Golden Era when I went on Admin ridealongs, I have never seen an actual hacker in Exiles or Siptah, in the wild.
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Back when I first came online 
I found a group of people that had written a crowbar like app to crack in to GP500; a motorcycle racing game I had, to make changes. We could change bikes, skins on bikes, riders, riders skins, tracks, track skins, and so on. I dove in head first. They had also written an app to crowbar tracks out of papyrus racing games; NASCAR, formula 1, Grand touring. Then they could be added to the track roister for the cycle racer. I learned to model and texture because they never came out of those games 100%.
Now a days we would be called modders and never would have thought of ourselves as hackers.
But it is true “hacker” has become synonymous with cheating. Even though most of the time the person that writes the “hack” doesn’t actually play the game, and the person that is using it is code illiterate, they are referred to as a hacker. I’ve have always prefer script kid. Which I think I got from fornite 
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True. Then again, Cybercrime-as-a-Service has become a huge market in the field of professional, organized cybercrime too, with well-established supply chains etc. Many criminals who “hack” into e.g. governmental or corporate systems are using tools someone else has created.
The world has evolved to a point where a “hacker” or “cracker” does not need to be code-savvy. They can buy the tools. And increasingly, they can use AI tools to craft the tools for them even if they have very low tech skills. That’s why cybercrime has increased explosively - its no longer skill-gated.
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