Not wanting to derail with who knows conan lore best tbh was just a suggestion as the limited control is a bit short.
Was more to get say a demon counted as follower just in case we want to use 2 with auth 4 perk for a sligtly longer time.
Not really suggested for control longer than 24 hours.
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Lord of the Black River.
Have you read it? I have.
But also:
Conan the Freelance
Conan the Buccaneer
Conan the Swordsman
Conan the Valorous
Have you read these? I have.
Each feature a demonic pet in tow of a villain. Various kinds, various makes, some only feature for a brief moment, others are a major plot point.
There are literally dozens more.
They usually keep these secrets in books. You should read more.
Try also:
The Gods of the Mountain
At the Demonās Gate
The Treasure of Python
The Emerald Lotus
I think Iāve named several there.
Cheers
And letās not forget that in the original Phoenix on the Sword the wizard bound a demon to do his bidding with the ring of Set.
Soā¦yeah.
Youāre all good mate, great ideas keep them coming.
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Not by REH
Not by REH
Not by REH
I think Iāll stick to whatās canon, instead of basing my ideas on purely expanded works with no original sources to ground the claim in reality.
There is no confirmation this is a āpetā; rather a one time summon, that doesnāt live long enough to confirm itās permanence.
Lol another good one. The demon beast did his bidding, obeyed him. Itās not a slave because itās not a person, so yeah, itās a follower/pet alright. Lol
Youāre not wrong, but the point Iām trying to make is that you should at least have one original story to base your claim off; as by expanding the scope of canon without acknowledging the originals just creates plot holes and inconsistencies. The ever-shifting goalpost is a dangerous slope and saying everything is canon just because it can be waters down the canon to a point where everything and nothing become one and the same.
First of all, incredibly rude. I can assure you Iāve read more than my fair share of lore, and if you knew who I am youād have known that. Pretty ignorant of you to assume I havenāt.
For a period of time, yes. As would the existing demon summons in the game. This doesnāt prove itās a permanent pet whatsoever; which if we cut out the mental gymnastics for a minute here is the point of this entire now-pointless argument.
Iām not sure if youāre just trying to project your arrogance as a means of validation for something; but I donāt consider joe nobodyās point valid if they go full insulting when their lack of core source material understanding shines through.
Maybe take a deep breath, step back from the keyboard for a bit and go read a book. Not a book loosely based on another book with plenty of creative liberties taken; but the original book.
Original story to base claim:
Phoenix on the Sword.
Plus, no you donāt have to base a claim on an original story. Thatās not what canon means.
Sigh.
Yeah sorry @Mbeat but none of those are canon and as such none of those example are worth the paper they are printed on. They may very well be good stories, but that is not relevant. They are, ultimately, published fan-fic.
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Are you even keeping up? The discussion is on permanent summons. Not one that gets chopped up on the immediate next page. That is the original point @2cents brought up, and has since been debunked by @Tephra and @Kapoteeni, as well as myself.
You have still failed to provide an argument that you inserted yourself into, to be a contrarian. Your point so far seems to be you just want to argue, with no footing on what to argue over.
Yes, you do. Because if I use your goalposts and shift them around, Fortnite is canon because of comic crossovers. Thereās a line on what expanded works are expanding the canon, and which ones are overwriting canon in favor of being a loose fanfic.
Sigh.
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Nope, they are not fan fiction. Sorry mate but Iāll correct you. Those authors were a select number commissioned by the Howard Estate, to expand on the world of Conan, and those novels are officially listed as canon by publishers. They were specially selected, they didnāt apply. There is Conan fan fiction, written by Joe Nobodies that you can read on websites etc, but thatās not what the Tor novels are. The Tor novels are officially distinguished from fan fiction by academic sources. Sorry dude, this is not opinion, I am basing this off what the Howard Estate has published about them. You can read about it in a book called āCambridge Companion to Fantasy Literatureā by Edward James, as well as āBarbarian Lifeā Vol 3 by Roy Thomas. For a work to be deemed ācanonā it has to be selected and appraised as such by critical scholars. These scholars have listed the Tor novels as a part of the Robert E Howard collection of stories. They are canon.
Cheers.
Lol you donāt know what canon means. Fortnight is not Marvel canon.
Lol youāre hilarious. Thanks!
Iām starting to suspect you donāt eitherā¦
At this point you donāt even have anything valid to say besides trying to talk down to everyone else about how youāre so much smarter because you can list books not written by REH. Nevermind you still havenāt proven your original point at all, just deflect and divert to how everyone else is wrong.
And so Iām dipping out of this thread, because itās clear nothing of value is to come from it. Best of luck to you, Joe Nobody.
Printed in Cambridge Companion to Fantasy Literatureā¦? Sorry, itās pretty clear that you donāt know what canon is or how it makes itās way onto a list. These books are published by academics, not me. Lol.
You wonāt change your mind, so enjoy ignorance my friend.
I wonāt reply anymore.
Cheers.
To be fair, I donāt believe any author outside of REH even considered their own contributions to the franchise to be canon. But instead a derivative or inspired work.
Especially considering REH passed away before any of those were published. The only grey area is works written by REH but published after his death.
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BINGO!
Jimbo, you can put your mind at ease. He clearly doesnāt. He hasnāt a clue at all, he only know what pushes his narrative regardless of facts or reason.
Lolā¦lets just pretend i didnt suggest a longer timer on the demon followers, or using more than one
Umm why? Canon is decided by academic appraisal, not public opinion. Why donāt you know this?
Canon is determined by the holders of the IP. Thatās it. Nobody else.
Funcom owns the IP and they seem to be sticking to the core content (including Lovecraft) as canon.
Whatever works were licensed in the past (or even in the future) should be assumed non-canon until Funcom makes them canon.
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