# I'm already disappointed with the new age! **URL:** \ **Category:** Feedback\ **Created:** [May 23, 2023, 5:25pm UTC](https://forums.funcom.com/t/im-already-disappointed-with-the-new-age/229526 "2023-05-23T17:25:11Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![WildCat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/439d5e/32.png) [@WildCat](https://forums.funcom.com/u/WildCat)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2023, 5:25pm UTC](https://forums.funcom.com/t/im-already-disappointed-with-the-new-age/229526/1 "2023-05-23T17:25:11Z")
And it’s not even out yet! So, i finally had some time to watch the Monday’s livestream and here’s what i have to say: By the design mostly humans are the subject of stunlock and they are (with some exception) are not damage sponges already. If you want to give them a chance to attack then why reduce their health? So the whole “let’s increase weapon stamina cost but reduce enemy health” thing is pointless. Not sure what overall enemy damage increase is gonna do. Do you want NPCs to be able to kill players in two-three strikes or even one-shot players? Human enemies with star metal or obsidian weapons are already deadly and you wouldn’t really want to get hit by them already, especially while wearing light armor. I’m not talking about some wildlife like Sabretooth cats or Yakiths - give them a buff and pounce gonna be one hit KO on light armor straight away. Increased stamina cost for weapons - thanks a lot for that (not really). Stamina consumption of two-handed hammers and axes is already so high right now i’m not using those two classes at all, and yeah, i do have 10 points in Grit, that’s not enough. With what i’ve seen in the livestream - not being able to pull off at least one full combo, i’m not even gonna touch those… maybe some of them gonna be wall-hangers or something. Balanced weapon fitting is already my best friend but looks like it won’t help me in the future. I really wish you’d drop that whole “nothing is forever” rule. As if demons and zombies wasn’t enough, now you set you sight at legendary items. After farming for Dragonhide Helmet for a week and spending three days doing nothing but killing bosses and opening chests just to get a single copy of Mistmourn shield the last thing i want to do is to spend two more weeks farming for those and other items again. Is it really your goal to drown your players in chores so they don’t have time to ask for new content? New purges sound like fun, except high level enemies are already effective in tearing down defenses with just structure damage multipliers and buffed Demon Fire Orbs, the last thing i would want is to have siege weapons and explosive jars to top it off. I guess i’ll have to have no treasure room then? Whenever there was a talk somewhere about night time in games i would always bring up Conan Exiles for the pitch black nights! Really makes challenging and scary even! From what i’ve seen in the livestream now you won’t need torches anymore because it’s too bright, period. Really sad! No proper battlepass overview but again, new outfits look like more of the same: some weathered raggy, baggy, shapeless full body wrap. Can we have something fitted, stylish and fresh for a change? Wasn’t sure what to expect from the new age but not this, not this at all! ---
**Author:** ![Jimbo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/funcom/user_avatar/forums.funcom.com/jimbo/32/109660_2.png) [@Jimbo](https://forums.funcom.com/u/Jimbo)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2023, 5:55pm UTC](https://forums.funcom.com/t/im-already-disappointed-with-the-new-age/229526/2 "2023-05-23T17:55:43Z")
> [@WildCat](#): > > And it’s not even out yet! When you’re so desperate to be upset about something you have to get pre-mad before even trying it out. ---
**Author:** ![Taemien](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/funcom/user_avatar/forums.funcom.com/taemien/32/2688_2.png) [@Taemien](https://forums.funcom.com/u/Taemien)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2023, 6:33pm UTC](https://forums.funcom.com/t/im-already-disappointed-with-the-new-age/229526/5 "2023-05-23T18:33:39Z")
I would definitely say to try it on Open Beta and see for yourselves. Playing for about 5 minutes I tried the Stone Maul and ended up fighting a camp of exiles with spears. Yeah its a little stressful only able to get in 2 heavy attacks and 3 light attacks. But because of the stagger/stun immunity removal, it wasn’t that bad. A well timed attack chain took them down relatively quickly. But definitely see it for yourselves. Don’t wait for a youtuber to tell you what ‘they’ think. Think for yourselves. ---
**Author:** ![Jimbo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/funcom/user_avatar/forums.funcom.com/jimbo/32/109660_2.png) [@Jimbo](https://forums.funcom.com/u/Jimbo)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2023, 6:34pm UTC](https://forums.funcom.com/t/im-already-disappointed-with-the-new-age/229526/6 "2023-05-23T18:34:42Z")
Took you 8 months to come up with that one huh ---
**Author:** ![Obsidious](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/97f17d/32.png) [@Obsidious](https://forums.funcom.com/u/Obsidious)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2023, 6:40pm UTC](https://forums.funcom.com/t/im-already-disappointed-with-the-new-age/229526/7 "2023-05-23T18:40:16Z")
No it just took 8 months for something major enough to happen in the game again that warranted me to actually check this thing. ---
**Author:** ![Obsidious](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/97f17d/32.png) [@Obsidious](https://forums.funcom.com/u/Obsidious)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2023, 6:43pm UTC](https://forums.funcom.com/t/im-already-disappointed-with-the-new-age/229526/10 "2023-05-23T18:43:49Z")
Definitely should check out the PTR, the big weapons weren’t really used that much anyway at least on the servers I play on. Sword and board still seems pretty fine to me and the combat is definitely something you can get used to. ---
**Author:** ![SirDaveWolf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/5f8ce5/32.png) [@SirDaveWolf](https://forums.funcom.com/u/SirDaveWolf)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2023, 6:50pm UTC](https://forums.funcom.com/t/im-already-disappointed-with-the-new-age/229526/12 "2023-05-23T18:50:07Z")
The damage values are all over the place for the weapons. Examples: ![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/funcom/original/3X/5/c/5cd06b3a3bd4bb837bd940b210912d028b18be72.jpeg) ![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/funcom/original/3X/e/5/e5955fd2e50b27ac5a2c501a14c769eda0e688f8.jpeg) Or: ![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/funcom/original/3X/8/f/8f09c9bcb1ed4968c43c45cf4646289b48729f6f.jpeg) ![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/funcom/original/3X/9/1/910ffa5554f4fa7f9d5db5bf1315b41b910ccb96.jpeg) Or: ![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/funcom/original/3X/8/8/88fc2bd6cc73bcc846d6852165ab7edad0078c6c.jpeg) ![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/funcom/original/3X/d/7/d73b59514a2aa25a7825753d5547e9eee35cf784.jpeg) Why bother farming the underwater dungeon or black keep now? ---
**Author:** ![Viveei](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/funcom/user_avatar/forums.funcom.com/viveei/32/73981_2.png) [@Viveei](https://forums.funcom.com/u/Viveei)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2023, 7:03pm UTC](https://forums.funcom.com/t/im-already-disappointed-with-the-new-age/229526/15 "2023-05-23T19:03:26Z")
About the night: Currently it’s like the moon and the moonlight doesn’t exist. It makes 0 sense for everything to be pitch black at night. The change to it is good, and we’ll be finally playing on Planet Earth with proper moonlight, and not on moonless planet. ---
**Author:** ![Dinner\_for\_wolves](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/funcom/user_avatar/forums.funcom.com/dinner_for_wolves/32/118303_2.png) [@Dinner\_for\_wolves](https://forums.funcom.com/u/Dinner_for_wolves)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2023, 7:16pm UTC](https://forums.funcom.com/t/im-already-disappointed-with-the-new-age/229526/19 "2023-05-23T19:16:01Z")
You’ll work through it. Find your safe space. ---
**Author:** ![MarcosC](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/funcom/user_avatar/forums.funcom.com/marcosc/32/101355_2.png) [@MarcosC](https://forums.funcom.com/u/MarcosC)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2023, 7:19pm UTC](https://forums.funcom.com/t/im-already-disappointed-with-the-new-age/229526/20 "2023-05-23T19:19:09Z")
I already said whar I had to say about it. I don’t like body censorship. If you do, don’t use revealing outfits and disable nudity. Just don’t impose to others your personal taste. And we can all get along. My safe space is the world, for better or for worse. ---
**Author:** ![Dinner\_for\_wolves](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/funcom/user_avatar/forums.funcom.com/dinner_for_wolves/32/118303_2.png) [@Dinner\_for\_wolves](https://forums.funcom.com/u/Dinner_for_wolves)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2023, 7:20pm UTC](https://forums.funcom.com/t/im-already-disappointed-with-the-new-age/229526/21 "2023-05-23T19:20:48Z")
I think you missed the point… It figures… ---
**Author:** ![MarcosC](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/funcom/user_avatar/forums.funcom.com/marcosc/32/101355_2.png) [@MarcosC](https://forums.funcom.com/u/MarcosC)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2023, 7:21pm UTC](https://forums.funcom.com/t/im-already-disappointed-with-the-new-age/229526/22 "2023-05-23T19:21:37Z")
Sure I did… 🙄. Let’s go back to topic, shall we? ---
**Author:** ![everybodyvsME](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/funcom/user_avatar/forums.funcom.com/everybodyvsme/32/111126_2.png) [@everybodyvsME](https://forums.funcom.com/u/everybodyvsME)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2023, 7:31pm UTC](https://forums.funcom.com/t/im-already-disappointed-with-the-new-age/229526/23 "2023-05-23T19:31:35Z")
Not to derail this thread, but all he did was give his opinion. If you didn’t like his opinion, you can choose to ignore it, rather than assume that his opinion isn’t shared by others. It might not be the place for it, however, insulting others over their opinions isn’t right either. Just my thoughts. 👍🏻 🥃 ---
**Author:** ![DeaconElie](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/funcom/user_avatar/forums.funcom.com/deaconelie/32/137113_2.png) [@DeaconElie](https://forums.funcom.com/u/DeaconElie)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2023, 7:34pm UTC](https://forums.funcom.com/t/im-already-disappointed-with-the-new-age/229526/25 "2023-05-23T19:34:38Z")
Don’t make me pull this thread over, I will. Now to the OP. Least you can do before passing judgement is > [@Taemien](#): > > try it on Open Beta and see for yourselves. ---
**Author:** ![Dinner\_for\_wolves](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/funcom/user_avatar/forums.funcom.com/dinner_for_wolves/32/118303_2.png) [@Dinner\_for\_wolves](https://forums.funcom.com/u/Dinner_for_wolves)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2023, 7:38pm UTC](https://forums.funcom.com/t/im-already-disappointed-with-the-new-age/229526/26 "2023-05-23T19:38:33Z")
I never said i didn’t agree with him. What i said was please keep it off the forums. This is for Conan… I don’t drink Bud Light either. This isnt the platform for that. ---
**Author:** ![everybodyvsME](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/funcom/user_avatar/forums.funcom.com/everybodyvsme/32/111126_2.png) [@everybodyvsME](https://forums.funcom.com/u/everybodyvsME)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2023, 7:41pm UTC](https://forums.funcom.com/t/im-already-disappointed-with-the-new-age/229526/28 "2023-05-23T19:41:58Z")
There’s a flag system for a reason. Perhaps that would’ve been a better option than to use insults, such as calling someone uneducated. 🥃 ---
**Author:** ![MarcosC](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/funcom/user_avatar/forums.funcom.com/marcosc/32/101355_2.png) [@MarcosC](https://forums.funcom.com/u/MarcosC)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2023, 7:48pm UTC](https://forums.funcom.com/t/im-already-disappointed-with-the-new-age/229526/29 "2023-05-23T19:48:40Z")
I have a thick skin, @everybodyvsME , but thanks for your lucidity. No harm done. ---
**Author:** ![Jimbo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/funcom/user_avatar/forums.funcom.com/jimbo/32/109660_2.png) [@Jimbo](https://forums.funcom.com/u/Jimbo)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2023, 8:17pm UTC](https://forums.funcom.com/t/im-already-disappointed-with-the-new-age/229526/30 "2023-05-23T20:17:32Z")
> [@SirDaveWolf](#): > > Examples: Are all these examples made by a bladesmith? To me it looks like only your low-tier ones are and their respective high-tier counterparts are not. ---
**Author:** ![WildCat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/439d5e/32.png) [@WildCat](https://forums.funcom.com/u/WildCat)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2023, 8:56pm UTC](https://forums.funcom.com/t/im-already-disappointed-with-the-new-age/229526/31 "2023-05-23T20:56:41Z")
You wish! No, i wanna be happy with the game! I really do! But the things i enjoy get erased one after another, slow but steady. I already have a number of games in my library that i just had to ditch because they were changed so much i couldn’t enjoy them anyone, don’t want Conan Exiles become one of them. ---
**Author:** ![heaven13](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/e68b1a/32.png) [@heaven13](https://forums.funcom.com/u/heaven13)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2023, 10:43pm UTC](https://forums.funcom.com/t/im-already-disappointed-with-the-new-age/229526/32 "2023-05-23T22:43:11Z")
I have to concur with SirDaveWolf on this. It seems fairly inconsistent in terms of difficulty to obtain and make. All the values below come from the crafted weapon with a bladesmith, no fittings, except for the black ice items and non-craftable legendaries. _(Live values taken from wiki)_ | **Weapon** | **AoW Damage** | **Live Damage** | **AoW Pen** | **Live Pen** | | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | | Hardened Steel Greatsword | 60 | 53 | 22 | 21.5 | | Black Ice Greatsword | 42 | 60 | 18 | 24.75 | | Star Metal Greatsword | 63 | 69 | 21 | 20.3 | | Obsidian Greatsword | 55 | 70 | 22 | 27.4 | | Dragonbone Two-Handed Sword | 52 | 70 | 17 | 23.9 | | Venom-Infused Two-Handed Sword | 52 | 59 | 17 | 11.9 | | _Legendary_ Craftable Blackheart Blade | 91 | 75 | 26 | 26.2 | | _Legendary_ Jedias Greatsaber | 71 | 60 | 23 | 23.63 | | Hardened Steel Mace | 51 | 44 | 27 | 25.8 | | Star Metal Mace | 51 | 55 | 25 | 24.3 | | Obsidian Mace | 44 | 57 | 27 | 32.9 | | _Legendary_ Nortis | 67 | 56 | 27 | 27 | | Hardened Steel Hammer | 57 | 49 | 45 | 42.9 | | Black Ice Maul | 38 | 54 | 36 | 49.5 | | Star Metal Hammer | 57 | 62 | 42 | 40.5 | | Obsidian Hammer | 51 | 63 | 45 | 54.9 | | Dragonbone Maul | 47 | 63 | 35 | 47.7 | | _Legendary_ Craftable Blackheart Hammer | 92 | 74 | 47 | 47.7 | | _Legendary_ Hammer of Thag | 65 | 65 | 45 | 45 | | Hardened Steel War Axe | 53 | 49 | 0 | 0 | | Black Ice War Axe | 36 | 51 | 0 | 0 | | Star Metal War Axe | 53 | 59 | 0 | 0 | | Dragonbone War Axe | 44 | 60 | 0 | 0 | | Venom-Infused War Axe | 44 | 51 | 0 | 0 | | _Legendary_ Glimmermoon | 71 | 57 | 0 | 0 | | Hardened Steel Daggers | 37 | 38 | 18 | 17.2 | | Black Ice Daggers | 25 | 42 | 14 | 19.8 | | Star Metal Daggers | 37 | 48 | 17 | 16.2 | | Obsidian Daggers | 33 | 49 | 18 | 21.9 | | Dragonbone Daggers | 31 | 49 | 14 | 19.1 | | Daggers of Dagon | 42 | 60 | 18 | 20 | | Venom Infused Daggers | 31 | 41 | 14 | 9.5 | | _Legendary_ Daggers of Nameless Days | 46 | 45 | 18 | 18.9 | Why would someone even bother with obsidian weapons now? You have to complete Well of Skelos to even get them which is still true in AoW; the tablet hasn’t moved. At least on live they have a tiny increase to damage and penetration that’s not so high that you NEED to farm it, but enough to feel like you did get a boost if you choose to remake your weapons. Black Ice is just as bad; you have to fight through giants, to even get to the forge to make it. For what? Nothing. Ditto with Dragonbone. I also threw in a couple legendaries as comparison. They might not be the best; they were just the ones I could think of off-hand. [Next page](https://forums.funcom.com/t/im-already-disappointed-with-the-new-age/229526.md?page=2)