You are still claiming that nonsense? Really? OK, lets view your “examples” a little deeper then shall we?

The Heliocentric model was first proposed by Aristarchus of Samos ( ~310BCE to ~230BCE). Aristarchus was an Astronomer and Mathematician. There was no “church” at the time to “scoff” at him, however since there was a lack of technology to prove his theories (he claimed that the stars were literally the same as the sun, just further away and that due to their distance there was no observable parallax. We still would be unable to observe this if not for the invention of telescopes :wink:). Thus the geocentric model tended to stand as his claims could not be verified AT THAT TIME. This is how science works though. Once the technology became available and future scientist, Nicolaus Copernicus, also a mathematician and astronomer reviewed the work done by former people such as Aristarchus and Archimedes further work on the hypothesis was done, followed by Johannes Kepler, (an astronomer, mathematician, astrologer and natural philosopher) and then Galileo Galilei (an astronomer, physicist and engineer).

So what do all of these people happen to have in common @Glurin? Oh right, silly me. They all just so happen to be scientists. How could I have possibly missed that one? :woman_facepalming: Oh and who was pushing the Geocentric model during the middle ages and claiming the Heliocentric model as blaspheme! That would be the church. The people who refuse to look at scientific evidence no matter what the facts show because it goes against “scripture”, or their interpretation of it at any rate.

TLDR: You completely and utterly misrepresented every last bit of what you claimed, and you continue to do so. You are either completely ignorant of the topics you are discussing, or you do know about them and are simply lying. I truly hope that it is the former and not the latter, because if it is the former then you can at least learn about them and with a more informed bases of knowledge you can come to a better conclusion. If it is the latter, well… :woman_shrugging:

Then again, you STILL refuse to provide any evidence for your claims what so ever so…

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