I said option, not miracles. And part of the issues are not bugs, but things forgotten/left behind/poorly implemented. Its very different. But i get what you mean, sorry it i offended you.
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@CodeMage I agree with you that a list of known issues and proper patch notes would help a lot. It is hard to report stuff if you donât know if it is intended or not but if something doesnât feel right, I do it anyway. It is also hard to test if you donât know that something was adjusted. I know that it would make my life testing stuff and helping people easier.
People keep referring to closed beta but even now with thousands of people playing, there arenât that many bug reports created (not talking about the stuff like my hair doesnât look right and this flower is floating). A lot of what has been discussed is feedback on how certain mechanics and items should work. Beta testers have given a lot of feedback on various topics but even amongst us we had various heated discussions. It is not much different than what you all do right now.
There were server issues during beta as well. We even had a server wipe because of an issue with the storm that has now been corrected. We had also replication issues many of which were corrected. We had even the high ping issues which required multiple server restarts. The devs have a lot of data already and even more now that the map went live.
I am fairly certain that not all issues come as a surprise to them even though some may be worse than anticipated. We had a bunch of last min fixes based on TestLive reports and the devs have been working overtime for months but I guess for the more serious issues such as undermeshing/storm cheese/empty vault chests, they simply need more time.
P.S. I think we all agreed that fish traps and super grind for a low chance of T4s is not going to be well received. I also donât quite understand why it takes so long to fix the glowing goop issue.
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Before I write anything else, I just want to thank you for sharing what you can and in a very positive and constructive way.
Maybe I havenât been as attentive as I should be, but my impression is that most of the major bugs have been reported. And, to be honest, thatâs much better than I expected. Regular players just donât tend to report bugs a lot. Even though this is Early Access, I donât expect it to generate bug reports â even with thousands of players â as easily and frequently as a closed, focused testing program.
Thatâs certainly valuable. I just wish Funcom had insisted a bit more on testing the nuts and bolts, too.
Thank you for sharing that. Itâs really easy for people to slip from âFuncom didnât test it enoughâ into âFuncom didnât test it at allâ, and this is a nice way to show that it wasnât like that 
If it was just a matter of not being well received⊠Instead, the inadequate risk/reward proportion for summoned surges is causing some really toxic behavior, and the fish traps are making people spam like crazy, building virtually on top of each other and causing more bad blood between clans.
Maybe next time theyâll actually listen to unanimous feedback from the testers they selectedâŠ
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I remember seeing it in notes, and kinda just went⊠oh⊠ok⊠not sure why. I guess it beats saw sound overriding most of others.
grunt and odd sounds upon log in
OH GOD WHY!!! XD
Agreeâd, Thou I think alot of users⊠just donât think for extra 5 seconds before hitting send, and some just donât seem to care how many times they hear âearly accessâ or âcommunity feedbackâ
I get some of feedback, agree with some of nerfs being to far down nerf path.
Thou⊠Iâm on ps4. So my feedback doesnt matter on new stuff, I get to sit and spin waiting for it to show up and have abunch of choices made for me with little chance of any change.
I felt largely ignore during movement/roll discussions. =/
I think Funcom would enjoy abit more discussion on feed back⊠and not whole stone/poo throwing. XD
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Yeah, I decided to put that one mildly 
Risk vs Reward is something that has been discussed extensively and it continues being discussed. Just to give you an idea of a few major changes between beta and now which are within my area of expertise, I wonât go in details:
- Rewards from bosses and vaults have been buffed. There are a lot more legendary kits now than before amongst other loot changes.
- Resource locations rebalanced.
- Wild surges now spawn armorer/blacksmith/alchemist not only cooks and tanners. There were a lot less surges per storm cycle as well.
- The number of wild life reduced substantially, a bit too much for my liking but it was needed.
- Leyshrine mechanics were very different when we started and a lot more conflict driven e.g. the shrine with most chaos would be the one to âwinâ. If you had too much chaos, you would get a calamity surge which was a way to grief others. A lot of adjustments were made to the summoned surges and I believe they are still work in progress.
- A lot of mobs in the storm now drop unstable essence which gives 2x chaos. During beta the grind was much harder with most of the mobs dropping lesser essence instead. Both lesser and unstable essence were decaying as well and you were not able to store them in a preservation box if I remember correctly. If not mistaken, the storm was an hour and we werenât swarmed the way we are swarmed now, at least not during the time when I was playing around with the storm. Since the grind was too much for me, I mostly focused on testing the surges rather than farming storm bosses and mobs. If I had to grind all my surges, I wouldnât have done much testing.
- We were offline raided as a âtestâ which was very upsetting for many but now we have some sort of offline protection in the works even if it is not quite ready yet. The CB server was a full PvP server with x1 rates.
- Spoil rates / Crafting times were a hot topic.
- Storm doesnât wipe your base outside of the storm area
The siege monsters still one shot stuff but I donât think this is intended. - The xp rates were different even though I canât say that for an experienced player the levelling was hard.
- The healing system was reworked a few times, which would explain why some items might have been missed. At some point there was no healing system at all Luckily, Funcom fixed that part fairly quickly.
- The delving bench now has a lot higher % to get recipes. A way to dupe eldarium was fixed as well.
- The vaults would refresh every 3h ±30 min. Now they refresh more often (105 min±30) which might be somehow related to the issue with the chests.
I know at least a few undermeshing spots that have been reported and addressed. I donât want to talk about PvP and its testing because I am simply not the right person to talk about it. There are other testers who can speak more about this part if they wish so.
These are just some of the many changes done based on feedback.
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Holy crap! You know what? Forget everything I said, especially the bit about how I wish they had insisted more on testing the nuts and bolts.
From the stuff you listed there, itâs clear that you guys did a heroic job saving the rest of us from a complete and utter disaster. 
EDIT: If thereâs any doubt about it, what I wrote above was not sarcastic. I really meant it.
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Healing Water, was nerfâd alittle to hard, it should heal something like 50HP over 5sec, not because you need to heal. but because if you stub your toe on a rock you will break your leg and that little HP is nice to heal for free.
But healing on a horse with water was and is broken.
We are the QA team, just saying.
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I feel this is the solution to this thread hahah
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As far as I know there is only one, and I have several of those kantana.
Wow, ok, hmm, wow, uh⊠Like Codemage said, really glad you guys were there - horrifying to imagine the screams of anguish if the main player base had got our hands on some of that. (although, I suppose people can only claim âitâs brokenâ âthe gameâs deadâ, which theyâre gonna do anyway so maybe less change than Iâm thinking 
)
It also does bring me some worries (not just regarding this game) - why is it that game devs (who often donât play their game or any other) seem to think infinite grind for no reward is a good design? Surely just on a simple mathematical basis some of these ideas should never have made it into the test game (if it takes a player X minutes to obtain one ???, and they need 500 for a small chance at a t4, will they play?).
That said - this also does give me considerably less worry regarding Funcom. Here I have clear evidence that they do listen to playersâ concerns - maybe they donât always agree, or (IMO) donât always get it right, but at least theyâre listening. That for me is by far the most important thing (well, and communication, but Iâve written elsewhere about why I think thatâs not as simple as we sometimes think it should be). (I used to play another game, where the devs got into a sort of arms race with the players, and they made quite clear they werenât listening to the players - laughter being the frequent response to polite requests - not a game Iâll be going back toâŠ)
Doh!
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@DanQuixote Thank you for saying that. I am sure that we could have done a better job and there are things we missed or should have tested more extensively. However, I still feel that a lot has been done and the map is in a better state than before. I am fully aware that there are some serious problems still to be addressed related to FLS, undermeshing, storm and some systems to be balanced (e.g. pvp on horses) but I am hoping that it wonât be long before we see some improvement.
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The health system now sux, bosses we took down before, now we cant with out running away and healing.
Armor does not protect like it did.
Which ones? Not looking to argue, I just wanna be forewarned when I go back to Exiled Lands.
Must admit, I hadnât noticed that. The boss fights Iâve done recently seemed much the same as before. That said, thereâs plenty of bosses I havenât fought recently, so we may well be talking about different ones. It also might be differences in preferred fighting style/armour - I tend to prefer medium armour so I can move more, but that does mean I usually have to do a bit of mid-fight healing, so itâs not much change now - I just have a bit of a âpanickyâ moment while Iâm drinking the potion, rather than continuing to move at full-speed as I did with the aloe soupâŠ
Try Exotic Feast. It heals 21HP/3 seconds
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