Land Claim Abuse on Official Servers: Feedback/Discussion



“So much work was put into all of them. Some of them were even built on official servers!”

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I think I understand all of the reactions and comments in this thread so far - except for the reactions to this:

  • The Official Servers are a small part of Conan Exiles. The game was not developed with them in mind. We absolutely provide players with the building blocks to produce huge castles, foundation webs, stairs to the sky, and anything else you can imagine. So in a sense, we do advertise this kind of gameplay. The ruleset we use for the Official Servers is just the flavor of gameplay we want to provide to the community. I like to think there is server out there to please everyone.

I mean I really don’t get why people are acting shocked and appalled. Of the thousand or so threads with more than ten replies in them which touch on the topic of Official Server rules I guess about half have some forum user or player saying that the Official Servers are an additional free service and not part of what you purchased.

So, wasn’t this already well known? It was definitely my understanding - which doesn’t mean much but… Anyway, kinda feel sorry for @Umborls here. A buttload of folks asked FC to be direct and honest with us and when they actually begin to, people melt? Ummm, K…


@Zeb, Wasn’t one of the official requests in that contest that we use SP or private servers because such builds weren’t cool on Officials? I thought it was anyway, pretty sure I read that… So, I guess that statement you highlighted should probably have read: "Some of them were even built on official servers anyway!”

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“derives from” not “is exactly the same as, in that in sandbox games everything is built out of sand and mainly little kids with plastic tools play them”.

You can’t just take the part of “sandbox” you feel validates your opinion on the subject and decide that’s now the real meaning of “sandbox game”.

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I’m unsure about that. My main point being the message seems mixed.

I think it’s like reading a book. You create your own image as to what everything looks like. So it can be really hard to cope with things not being depicted as you envisioned. As that is your reality. Games are investments, an escape for a lot of people. So investments beyond time go into them. Conan became a safe place for many players. A lot of that was done on Official servers. (I’m not afraid to say I was among them. When the merge came for my server and I was set to lose my base, it really broke my heart.) Anything that seems to threaten that isn’t going to be taken well/lightly. I think it’s important to look at it from all sides. I’m not shocked at the responses here, people are scared.

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I guess that statement you highlighted should probably have read: "Some of them were even built on official servers anyway!” so maybe, I guess, I mean if people weren’t paying attention to the contest rules and then read that without the added (and likely implied) word “anyway”…

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I did not take it that way whatsoever. I took it as her being impressed. I looked for the rules and it doesn’t say anything like that.

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Yes you would be wiped in 3 days if reported, this is how that story went. It’s sad, did FC change team I know some quit but really.

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Oh, my mistake… That’s the contest from 3 years ago. I was talking about the most recent one. When was that, like 4 or 6 months ago, something.

Considering your reference is three years old I’m not sure what to think now tho.

That the stance hasn’t been consistent.

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No, not ANYWAY. They were built on Official Servers with our hands and ingenuity. You know how long my contest entries took to scrounge and put up for?

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This is landclaim abuse for sure lol :smiley: or must be since iv been suspended 2 times for 10x less than that :smiley:

Yeah, we already established it was a contest that happened three years ago and not the most recent one I was thinking of. So 3 years ago was before my time. It was also a time prior to Funcom’s “new direction” so in my opinion fairly irrelevant to this discussion. When did FC change direction anyway? What, about a year ago, maybe a tad more? And they got serious about that direction when, maybe 6 to 8 months ago? I can’t be off by more than a couple of months.

landclaim abuse :smiley: iv been suspended for 10x times less

I don’t know what you’re talking about. Nicole still works at Funcom. She administered the last contest.

Shame you don’t know what you’re talking about either. You know, my winning entry was a Welsh Castle that will be impossible to build due to the fence foundation thing, and would be deleted due to the landclaim thing and sheer size thing. Also I had three temples close together for visuals.

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Let me help you.

Source: Building Contest: Tower of the Elephant (NOW ENDED) - #54 by bbtech

No suggestion in the rules or her comments that these cannot or should not be built on Official servers.


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Temple of the Gods Building Contest *NOW ENDED*

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I didn’t “just take” that meaning. Since the “sandbox game” has absolutely no reference to amount of time your creations last, I would say the implied concept of temporary sandbox creations is justified by the root of the phrase which defines this very clearly. So what justification do you have in your opinion that there is a requirement of permemence?

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Sandbox predates gaming, substantially. In Open Source, Sandbox was used predominantly in the financial sector as proving ground for software prior to hooking it up to actual banks and credit card processors. PayPal still runs the successor system to this.

Earlier still, sandbox (little S) was used in private military contracting, to create an enhanced software scenario for a given weapon. For instance, Target Drone and Stealth Bomber.

Even earlier, Sandbox was the scenario system for nuclear engineers. In particular it was used in the creation of several power plants. Three Mile Island was built from the Sandbox up, and the Sandbox existed even when the plant went hypercritical. Using multiple Sandboxes, many teams could deconstruct the problem. The Three-Mile Sandbox lives in the Smithsonian, in a great big room, and contains my dad’s signature among others.

Durable, resourceful and potentially timeless.

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Please look at this build. A year of life on Official. Welcome @October to the Community.

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honestly most people on pvp officials get wiped due to land claim spam.

no one would be nearly as annoyed at funcom if they just removed the spam instead of wiping the entire base + banning the players lmao.

This game is designed around land claiming honestly.

Default land claim size. A player not in your clan can build 12 foundation lengths away from your land claim. Thats so insanely close it boarders on stupidity.

Explosive jars do an insane amount of damage compared to building piece health. Let alone demon fire barrage from a treb. So of course players are going to land claim to protect them selves from trebs.

People are also going to land claim because they don’t want people building 12foundations away from them.

It’s clear funcom knows difference between a main base and foundation spam so just remove the spam instead of the entire base and stop banning people for building. Start banning the hackers that plague every region because your ping caps for officials dont work.

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I just think that they are sending mixed messages about what is and isn’t allowed. This is important, building is a major part of this game regardless of the chosen variant of play you have chosen.

Once again no indication that these builds are discouraged on Officials.

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