# No Knock Out Bar 2020 **URL:** \ **Category:** PC Discussion\ **Tags:** pc\ **Created:** [November 12, 2020, 8:42pm UTC](https://forums.funcom.com/t/no-knock-out-bar-2020/148142 "2020-11-12T20:42:04Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 10\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Nemlomezic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/49beb7/32.png) [@Nemlomezic](https://forums.funcom.com/u/Nemlomezic)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2020, 8:42pm UTC](https://forums.funcom.com/t/no-knock-out-bar-2020/148142/1 "2020-11-12T20:42:04Z")
Single-Player/Co-op No Knock-out Bar Bug PvE North America * * * No human npcs have a knock-out bar that I have seen. I mostly tested this on starter area npcs. They aren’t special, no skulls on like bar etc. I lowered damage to minimum and beat on them forever trying to knock them out but they only die a very slow death for my efforts. Is there a known fix for this? From what I can tell, it’s one of the more important features of the game. * * * Please provide a step-by-step process of how the bug can be reproduced. The more details you provide us with the easier it will be for us to find and fix the bug: 1. Start a Co-op game. 2. Level up until you get to the point when you are ready to capture thralls. 3. Go to the starter area and find a human npc. 4. Slowly beat it to death with any knock-out weapon. ---
**Author:** ![Estha](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/d78d45/32.png) [@Estha](https://forums.funcom.com/u/Estha)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2020, 9:36pm UTC](https://forums.funcom.com/t/no-knock-out-bar-2020/148142/2 "2020-11-12T21:36:25Z")
Any mods? I tested knockouts extensively with almost every truncheon and such very recently, and wak too, and it seems to work just fine? ---
**Author:** ![Nemlomezic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/49beb7/32.png) [@Nemlomezic](https://forums.funcom.com/u/Nemlomezic)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2020, 4:50am UTC](https://forums.funcom.com/t/no-knock-out-bar-2020/148142/3 "2020-11-13T04:50:09Z")
Yeah there’s no knockout bar even without mods. Tried verifying files but it didn’t help. ---
**Author:** ![Jim1](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/funcom/user_avatar/forums.funcom.com/jim1/32/17468_2.png) [@Jim1](https://forums.funcom.com/u/Jim1)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2020, 5:10am UTC](https://forums.funcom.com/t/no-knock-out-bar-2020/148142/4 "2020-11-13T05:10:03Z")
Can you snap a quick picture and post it, mid fight? I don’t have that issue either, but would like to know more about it. I am assuming, you have the first perk in strength and, if available, some level of blunt kit on your truncheon, but it should work with a wooden plain truncheon on _most_ of the NPC. Regards jim ---
**Author:** ![Nemlomezic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/49beb7/32.png) [@Nemlomezic](https://forums.funcom.com/u/Nemlomezic)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2020, 6:29am UTC](https://forums.funcom.com/t/no-knock-out-bar-2020/148142/5 "2020-11-13T06:29:07Z")
I was using the knock-out spears and arrows. I also used a hammer that I saw a guy on youtube use. I just got on and made an iron truncheon to get that screen shot and it worked. The knockout bar was there. I suppose it’s just the other weapons that aren’t working but as long as one weapon does work, I’m good. Thanks guys. ---
**Author:** ![Multigun](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/funcom/user_avatar/forums.funcom.com/multigun/32/90242_2.png) [@Multigun](https://forums.funcom.com/u/Multigun)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2020, 7:19am UTC](https://forums.funcom.com/t/no-knock-out-bar-2020/148142/6 "2020-11-13T07:19:06Z")
> [@Nemlomezic](#): > > used a hammer that I saw a guy on youtube use Sounds like a mod change. Hammer hasn’t ever been a knockout weapon. I don’t know about the arrows, but the Blunted Javelin should work fine. ---
**Author:** ![montana1](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/funcom/user_avatar/forums.funcom.com/montana1/32/60390_2.png) [@montana1](https://forums.funcom.com/u/montana1)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2020, 4:45pm UTC](https://forums.funcom.com/t/no-knock-out-bar-2020/148142/7 "2020-11-13T16:45:31Z")
Just out of Interest… has anyone here ever tried putting a blunted weapon fitting on a hammer? ---
**Author:** ![Nemlomezic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/49beb7/32.png) [@Nemlomezic](https://forums.funcom.com/u/Nemlomezic)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2020, 4:58am UTC](https://forums.funcom.com/t/no-knock-out-bar-2020/148142/8 "2020-11-14T04:58:30Z")
Yeah the blunt arrows and the blunt javelin were the 1st things that I tried. They are both bugged for me as long as the truncheon works I don’t mind. ---
**Author:** ![Multigun](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/funcom/user_avatar/forums.funcom.com/multigun/32/90242_2.png) [@Multigun](https://forums.funcom.com/u/Multigun)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2020, 3:33pm UTC](https://forums.funcom.com/t/no-knock-out-bar-2020/148142/9 "2020-11-14T15:33:23Z")
Sounds like a mod change then. Blunted Javelins definetly work fine in vanilla. ---
**Author:** ![system](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/funcom/original/1X/8d85ca8a66fb78fa7574e255b50aa722d634177b.png) [@system](https://forums.funcom.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2020, 3:33pm UTC](https://forums.funcom.com/t/no-knock-out-bar-2020/148142/10 "2020-11-21T15:33:30Z")
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