# Passive health regen is extremely passive **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [March 4, 2019, 11:17am UTC](https://forums.funcom.com/t/passive-health-regen-is-extremely-passive/56195 "2019-03-04T11:17:31Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 6
**Author:** ![viguiry](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/a9a28c/32.png) [@viguiry](https://forums.funcom.com/u/viguiry)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2019, 8:48pm UTC](https://forums.funcom.com/t/passive-health-regen-is-extremely-passive/56195/116 "2019-04-03T20:48:58Z")
> [@Shadoza](#): > > What is gold to one is dust to another. You’re wrong here 🙂 Because the game has the same aspects/rules for everyone. As an example, The third vitality perk is gold to everyone, especially if you compare it to the other third attributtes perk. Some things tend to be absolute even if it is disgusting to admit. > [@Shadoza](#): > > To suggest that there is only one way to play I never made that suggestion, you did, out of your assumption of what i didn’t say. There are better way than others in specific situations, for a specific goal. That’s what i am saying. If you are farming, it is better to gather ressources twice faster than having your shots fired from your bow to ricochet if you miss your target. ---
**Author:** ![viguiry](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/a9a28c/32.png) [@viguiry](https://forums.funcom.com/u/viguiry)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2019, 9:11pm UTC](https://forums.funcom.com/t/passive-health-regen-is-extremely-passive/56195/118 "2019-04-03T21:11:33Z")
> [@Shadoza](#): > > That is correct. I don’t use them because I don’t need them. So you are telling that you aren’t using armors with temperature resistance ^^ But in the same time, you are using your brain? Must be great to go in the volcano or in the snowy landscape 🙂 > [@Shadoza](#): > > I am not wrong: What is gold to one is dust to another. You are wrong and i just explained you why, but keep denying ^^ Such simple words do not reflex the complexity of the game, even less accurate if we talk about our world because all the shades are not just gold or dust. it could be seems as wise words, but it is incomplete and certainly innacurate. ---
**Author:** ![viguiry](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/a9a28c/32.png) [@viguiry](https://forums.funcom.com/u/viguiry)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2019, 9:13pm UTC](https://forums.funcom.com/t/passive-health-regen-is-extremely-passive/56195/119 "2019-04-03T21:13:47Z")
> [@Shadoza](#): > > I use four perks in vitality and four perks in survival. That’s it. There have been times where I used only three perks in vitality. That’s it? What kind of player are you? Pvp? Pve? singleplayer? Are you just using one loadout? ---
**Author:** ![WhatMightHaveBeen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/e495f1/32.png) [@WhatMightHaveBeen](https://forums.funcom.com/u/WhatMightHaveBeen)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2019, 9:26pm UTC](https://forums.funcom.com/t/passive-health-regen-is-extremely-passive/56195/122 "2019-04-03T21:26:24Z")
1. Getting dressed is not overconfidence. That is called routine. Overconfidence is thinking the 150$ new shirt will get you the promotion, when some one else could easily have that shirt, if not a better one. 2. You proved my point. Bread and water allows me to live to the next day, anything else is just an added bonus because i like it. 3. I do take into account all of that stuff, i just don’t depend on them. That would be _overconfidence_ of not dying due to lag, if not during melee. Prep for the worst, utliize the best as a tool. While you are regening stam, i ill be attacking, killing the heal before you get it all. And if you dip, i can last longer and javelin you with the stamina difference. “What is gold to one, is dust to another” @Shadoza ---
**Author:** ![viguiry](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/a9a28c/32.png) [@viguiry](https://forums.funcom.com/u/viguiry)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2019, 9:29pm UTC](https://forums.funcom.com/t/passive-health-regen-is-extremely-passive/56195/123 "2019-04-03T21:29:49Z")
Why anyone should take a coat while going outside in the winter when they can go naked and eat a hot soup? Right, it is all good 😂 > [@Shadoza](#): > > I am not wrong. Stay in your denial, it’s fine, as i stated before some people think the earth is flat, some that it is round, others ellipsoïdale. It’s definitly your choice to think what you want 😆 > [@Shadoza](#): > > People play the game differently than yourself and still enjoy and complete it I never said the opposite, did i? > [@Shadoza](#): > > Because someone thinks differently than you does not make them wrong and only you right. I never said that either, i specifically said that some loadouts are better in some specific situations than others, this is a fact. I never said that i was holding the truth, I just use my head and stay as much as possible logical. Feel free to prove me wrong 😉 > [@Shadoza](#): > > Since the other perks do not interest me Yeah you’re right, the other perks are useless 🤣 > [@Shadoza](#): > > Strategy gets a player through areas where perks and might won’t go. Actually it’s the other way around: Perks gets a player through areas where strategy might won’t go. Especially in your case, you do not use armor with temperature resistance. You can try as many strategies as you want, you won’t be able to climbs, or stay for a long period of time in those weathers, but with perks you do. ---
**Author:** ![viguiry](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/a9a28c/32.png) [@viguiry](https://forums.funcom.com/u/viguiry)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2019, 9:39pm UTC](https://forums.funcom.com/t/passive-health-regen-is-extremely-passive/56195/124 "2019-04-03T21:39:43Z")
> [@WhatMightHaveBeen](#): > > Getting dressed is not overconfidence. That is called routine. Exacly, taking potions is a routine. I was waiting you to say that. > [@WhatMightHaveBeen](#): > > You proved my point. Bread and water allows me to live to the next day, anything else is just an added bonus because i like it. It’s not just because you like it ^^, if you are chosen to be part of the olympics competitors you will do anything to enhance your health (any goal in life actually, you will do what you can to enhance yourself toward this goal: school? sports?social life? carrier?) You won’t just eat bread and water. > [@WhatMightHaveBeen](#): > > I do take into account all of that stuff, i just don’t depend on them Because i depend on them? 😅 Plz read again what i wrote. It enhances yourself. Saying you depend on it or not iss just subjective. > [@WhatMightHaveBeen](#): > > That would be _overconfidence_ of not dying due to lag, if not during melee. I never said i couldn’t die from lag or in melee? So many great assumptions 🤣 Are you even a pvp player? Plus, you’re just giving one possible scenario which is in your favor, don’t be so close-minded 😉 Forgetting that i would potentially deal you +25% dmg, how convenient 🙂 Do you even know the difference of stamina between the second and third perk? (the gap is 7 points if you use an elixir 😉 ) This is getting embarassing really. ---
**Author:** ![viguiry](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/a9a28c/32.png) [@viguiry](https://forums.funcom.com/u/viguiry)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2019, 10:07pm UTC](https://forums.funcom.com/t/passive-health-regen-is-extremely-passive/56195/126 "2019-04-03T22:07:24Z")
> [@Shadoza](#): > > But I do. Well it’s a simple no, if you get heatstrokes, you can’t climb. Fact. If you don’t have enough cold resistance and get frostbites, you can’t stay for a very long time in the frost temple. Fact. > [@Shadoza](#): > > You can stop anytime you feel discomfort. It’s not discomfort but pity. Sorry ^^ ---
**Author:** ![WhatMightHaveBeen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/e495f1/32.png) [@WhatMightHaveBeen](https://forums.funcom.com/u/WhatMightHaveBeen)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2019, 10:12pm UTC](https://forums.funcom.com/t/passive-health-regen-is-extremely-passive/56195/127 "2019-04-03T22:12:35Z")
since max perks is what we should be doing ■■■ routine, then this is the best set up for PVP. | | points | elixir | War Paint | | Armor | | | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | | Strength | 25 | yes | no | | head | Stygian Soldier | | Agility | 25 | yes | no | | torso | Silent Legion | | Vitality | 30 | yes | yes | | gauntlets | Silent Legion | | Accuracy | 1 | yes | no | | legs | Silent Legion | | Grit | 25 | yes | no | | boots | yamatai warlord | | Encumberance | 20 | yes | no | | | | | Survival | 7 | yes | no | | | | | | | | | | | | | weapons wheel | | | | | | | | Dueling Blade of the Hawk | | +5 agi | | | | | | Black Bruargh’s Fury | | +5 agi | | | | | | LifeBlood | | regen | | | | | | Black Dragon Pike | | +50 stam | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Perks | | | | | | | | Thuggery. Every blow you strike with a truncheon deals 100% more concussive damage. | | | | | | | | Salting the Wound. You now deal 25% increased damage to enemies affected by negative status effect (i.e. cripple, bleed, sunder). | | | | | | | | Slice and Dice. Each light attack yo do inflicts 10% more damage. | | | | | | | | Iron Endurance. Sprinting drains less stamina. | | | | | | | | Cat-like. Falling damage is halved. | | | | | | | | Effortless Leap. Jumping no longer costs stamina. | | | | | | | | Nimble Tumbler. When dodging, your armor counts as one weight-class lower than normal. | | | | | | | | Deep Breath. Your breath timer is doubled. | | | | | | | | Impervious. All temperature effects are diminished. | | | | | | | | Fierce Vitality. You gain passive health regeneration. | | | | | | | | Receptive. Increases the healing effect of consumable and dancers by 100%. | | | | | | | | Strong Grip. You use 10% less stamina whenever you climb. | | | | | | | | Barbaric Tenacity. You gain an additional 10% stamina per regeneration tick. | | | | | | | | Iron-hard Muscles. You gain a natural resistance to damage. | | | | | | | | Balance and Counterbalance. You deal 10% extra melee damage while over-encumbered but swing using 10% less stamina when not over-encumbered. | | | | | | | | Sure-footed. Crippling effects are less severe. | | | | | | | | Raw and Bloody. You do not have to cook raw meat to avoid food poisoning. | | | | | | | ![drop](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/funcom/original/3X/e/3/e31ae245e7992c2032b750f8927f3ab1d1af72b4.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![viguiry](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/a9a28c/32.png) [@viguiry](https://forums.funcom.com/u/viguiry)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2019, 10:24pm UTC](https://forums.funcom.com/t/passive-health-regen-is-extremely-passive/56195/129 "2019-04-03T22:24:49Z")
You can drop this spear on the red broodmother dragon 🙂 Here ![Untitled](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/funcom/original/3X/8/3/83183ecdfbfa00848ee0c02a37e750a4504f9f17.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![WhatMightHaveBeen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/e495f1/32.png) [@WhatMightHaveBeen](https://forums.funcom.com/u/WhatMightHaveBeen)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2019, 10:26pm UTC](https://forums.funcom.com/t/passive-health-regen-is-extremely-passive/56195/130 "2019-04-03T22:26:09Z")
It is a drop off the unnamed city bosses unfortunately 😕 Random with the other legendary stuff. It works in a cool way imo. You have to dis-arm and re-arm if you take damage during the healing effect it is giving, like all healing potions etc. ---
**Author:** ![WhatMightHaveBeen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/e495f1/32.png) [@WhatMightHaveBeen](https://forums.funcom.com/u/WhatMightHaveBeen)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2019, 10:29pm UTC](https://forums.funcom.com/t/passive-health-regen-is-extremely-passive/56195/132 "2019-04-03T22:29:23Z")
To my knowledge, yes. And it stacks with other regens as well. ---
**Author:** ![viguiry](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/a9a28c/32.png) [@viguiry](https://forums.funcom.com/u/viguiry)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2019, 10:30pm UTC](https://forums.funcom.com/t/passive-health-regen-is-extremely-passive/56195/134 "2019-04-03T22:30:25Z")
> [@WhatMightHaveBeen](#): > > since max perks is what we should be doing ■■■ routine, then this is the best set up for PVP. See everyone? Unlike @WhatMightHaveBeen , i never said that i was holding such utopian truth, like the “best set up for pvp” I can already say that it is not the best set up for pvp btw. ---
**Author:** ![WhatMightHaveBeen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/e495f1/32.png) [@WhatMightHaveBeen](https://forums.funcom.com/u/WhatMightHaveBeen)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2019, 10:31pm UTC](https://forums.funcom.com/t/passive-health-regen-is-extremely-passive/56195/135 "2019-04-03T22:31:00Z")
paper cups. ---
**Author:** ![viguiry](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/a9a28c/32.png) [@viguiry](https://forums.funcom.com/u/viguiry)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2019, 10:51pm UTC](https://forums.funcom.com/t/passive-health-regen-is-extremely-passive/56195/137 "2019-04-03T22:51:41Z")
It would be great if we could fight each other 😄 ---
**Author:** ![John-Baptiste](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/funcom/user_avatar/forums.funcom.com/john-baptiste/32/21358_2.png) [@John-Baptiste](https://forums.funcom.com/u/John-Baptiste)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2019, 1:48am UTC](https://forums.funcom.com/t/passive-health-regen-is-extremely-passive/56195/138 "2019-04-04T01:48:53Z")
You can in PVP. ---
**Author:** ![viguiry](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/a9a28c/32.png) [@viguiry](https://forums.funcom.com/u/viguiry)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2019, 1:53am UTC](https://forums.funcom.com/t/passive-health-regen-is-extremely-passive/56195/139 "2019-04-04T01:53:53Z")
I know, i meant specifically those players thinking they hold the truth 😄 ---
**Author:** ![John-Baptiste](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/funcom/user_avatar/forums.funcom.com/john-baptiste/32/21358_2.png) [@John-Baptiste](https://forums.funcom.com/u/John-Baptiste)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2019, 1:54am UTC](https://forums.funcom.com/t/passive-health-regen-is-extremely-passive/56195/140 "2019-04-04T01:54:44Z")
Ah, ok. Probably challenge them and see if the except the PVP. ---
**Author:** ![ForumUser0508180231](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/funcom/user_avatar/forums.funcom.com/forumuser0508180231/32/4405_2.png) [@ForumUser0508180231](https://forums.funcom.com/u/ForumUser0508180231)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2019, 3:56pm UTC](https://forums.funcom.com/t/passive-health-regen-is-extremely-passive/56195/141 "2019-04-10T15:56:19Z")
Bumperooni!!! Still no word on a fix/de-nerf? I didn’t get out the Seiko but it seems it’s even worse since today’s hotfix. ---
**Author:** ![SirDaveWolf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/5f8ce5/32.png) [@SirDaveWolf](https://forums.funcom.com/u/SirDaveWolf)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2019, 11:05am UTC](https://forums.funcom.com/t/passive-health-regen-is-extremely-passive/56195/142 "2019-04-11T11:05:33Z")
This build is garbage. I hope you are trolling. ---
**Author:** ![Gnadolin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/94ad74/32.png) [@Gnadolin](https://forums.funcom.com/u/Gnadolin)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2019, 11:50am UTC](https://forums.funcom.com/t/passive-health-regen-is-extremely-passive/56195/143 "2019-04-11T11:50:22Z")
I honestly think that what we experience as a nerf at this point is actually the fix, since before the perk was giving way more regeneration than it should have given. [Previous page](https://forums.funcom.com/t/passive-health-regen-is-extremely-passive/56195.md?page=5) [Next page](https://forums.funcom.com/t/passive-health-regen-is-extremely-passive/56195.md?page=7)