# Proposition for land claim

**URL:** <https://forums.funcom.com/t/proposition-for-land-claim/250797>\
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**Created:** [February 26, 2024, 2:48pm UTC](https://forums.funcom.com/t/proposition-for-land-claim/250797 "2024-02-26T14:48:43Z")\
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**Author:** ![CodeMage](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/funcom/user_avatar/forums.funcom.com/codemage/32/13564_2.png) [@CodeMage](https://forums.funcom.com/u/CodeMage)\
**Post date:** [February 28, 2024, 1:34am UTC](https://forums.funcom.com/t/proposition-for-land-claim/250797/75 "2024-02-28T01:34:04Z")

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> [@Nemisis](#):
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> When he says he sees no violations when you clearly see a long walkway/wall with torches which he talked as being violations in his land claim thread. So, Baeltor has a bit of a point about Funcom not even knowing how to interpret the rules themselves.

Not quite.

I know what you’re getting at, though. When I look at that screenshot, my immediate reaction is “this is a clear infraction”. But there are two problems with that.

One is that it looks to _ **me** _ like a clear infraction, but I don’t know if that’s actually an infraction according to Funcom.

The [thread](https://forums.funcom.com/t/land-claim-abuse-on-official-servers/190158) Umborls wrote about land claim abuse clearly says that it’s meant to show some “examples of building strategies that should be avoided by players when playing on Official Servers”. It illustrates some general principles, but the devil’s in the details.

Should the build in that screenshot be judged as a foundation web, or a wall, or a decorative land claim? Without more extensive screenshots, you can’t tell if it’s purely decorative, if the shape merits being called a foundation web, or if the wall “extends too far from the buildings it protects”.

How do Funcom admins judge these things? Beats me. The only information that would actually help us understand that is a concrete explanation for each specific case, which they stubbornly refuse to provide. My own (rather uncharitable) theory is that they don’t want to do it because it will reveal just how badly they’re doing this, but that’s a whole 'nother can of worms.

The other problem with the post you linked to is that Umborls said “that screenshot doesn’t really show me anything”. Sure, it might mean “it doesn’t show me any infractions”, but it could also mean what I already mentioned above: “it doesn’t really show me enough to determine if there was an infraction”.

At any rate, I agree wholeheartedly that they’ve made an unholy mess of the official server moderation. As I’ve stated several times, I really regret being one of the voices that kept asking for that moderation. If I had known how badly they were going to do it, I wouldn’t have asked. Dealing with an occasional griefer would have been less depressing than these pointless discussions.

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