PUA/AD.CoinMiner.apdz malware alarm after patch

Testerle · 2019-05-31T10:51:23.378Z

that’s not the fault of funcom, conan exiles or granite. virus scanners search for viruses not only with the known virus signatures. they also use heuristics to detect unknown viruses and in this case the avira heuristic produce a false positive.

so if someone has something to fix then it is the producer of the anti-virus software (in this case avira) because his heuristic signatures produce a false alarm.

shru77 · 2019-05-31T08:52:13.000Z

Game mode: Online official
**Type of issue:**Crash , Virus
Server type: PvE
Region: EU

Virus detected in Conan Exiles, file grGranite.dll , presistent after re installation of client

steps to reproduce

Installation.
Virus scanner avira , bitcoin miner virus detected
conan exile uninstall
conan exile reinstall
by start again virus alert

file : … steamapps\downloading\440900\Engine\Binaries\ThirdParty\GraniteSDK\Win64\release\grGranite.dll

flagged by avira as PUA/AD.coinMiner.apdz
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Multigun · 2019-05-31T08:55:28.832Z

Already a thread

https://forums.funcom.com/t/can-someone-explain-this/73127/26

tjhoban · 2019-05-31T10:08:37.454Z

After the update my antivirus does not let the game open

Something very wrong is happening, after I did this update of the game today my antivirus no longer let me open it, it says that it forwarded a file of the game to quarantine, file that prevents the game from opening. “PAU/AD.CoinMiner.apdz” PC Steam

tjhoban · 2019-05-31T07:24:58.000Z

Something very wrong is happening, after I did this update of the game today my antivirus no longer let me open it, it says that it forwarded a file of the game to quarantine, file that prevents the game from opening. “PAU/AD.CoinMiner.apdz” PC Steam

Multigun · 2019-05-31T07:46:43.503Z

Already a thread on this

Can someone explain this? PC Discussion

June 30th update on PC, halfway into it I get this: [Clipboard01] Full path is Engine\Binaries\ThirdParty\GraniteSDK\Win64\release\grGranite.dll. I am not willing to de-quarantine the file and let the download finish until someone from Funcom answers.

Ignasi · 2019-05-31T12:56:01.622Z

Hey there,

We’ve merged all threads reporting this situation into this one. Please use the search function before posting an issue.
It’s a false positive, we’ve notified our team.

YoloLaspicot · 2019-05-31T13:08:15.031Z

false positiv for me to

tjhoban · 2019-05-31T15:30:25.902Z

I did the less indicated, I had to indign and remove from the quarantine, I turned off the antivirus … until the update finished and the game opened, but soon gave a fatal error, and now it does not open again even with the antivirus turned off, which it is not correct at all.
I play this game for 2 years never had a problem, how can an update that added nothing and still damage the whole game.
The problem is not whether it is positive or not, the problem is that positive or phallus broke the operation of the game!

Narelle · 2019-05-31T15:55:22.896Z

if your windows breaks, which would result in you not being able to play the game, would you say it is the game’s fault again? your anti-virus broke the game, not the other way around.

tjhoban · 2019-05-31T15:55:44.023Z

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Narelle · 2019-05-31T15:56:59.259Z

verify the integritity of the files with avira off.

monkeybanana · 2019-05-31T17:30:30.387Z

Same here - i think i remeber the same issue in 2017 or 2018 - so why the SDK suddenly has this issue back - and no i m not deactivating my virus protection for a System Developer Kit package - that should be handeled (and i think was before) by the developers …

when will there be a solution.

Multigun · 2019-05-31T18:20:13.575Z

monkeybanana:

that should be handeled (and i think was before) by the developers …

Out of 72 virus software programs out there, Avira is the one and only to flag. Testerle summed it up already.

Testerle:

that’s not the fault of funcom, conan exiles or granite. virus scanners search for viruses not only with the known virus signatures. they also use heuristics to detect unknown viruses and in this case the avira heuristic produce a false positive.

so if someone has something to fix then it is the producer of the anti-virus software (in this case avira) because his heuristic signatures produce a false alarm.

Overtkill · 2019-05-31T18:34:24.351Z

Hola, same in here. Restored that grrrr file, and got the writing error. The most interesting fact that I launched Conan, but the path is in a different game…Have to tell that I have been playing for months, and that was my first problem…

banzai7874 · 2019-05-31T19:44:00.959Z

I had this same issue immediately after installing the patch. After reading the comments here and going through 2 re-installs, I ended up having to completely uninstall Avira Anti-Virus as even the ignore file did not work for me. Now the game works as it did before.

Narelle · 2019-05-31T20:42:26.949Z

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tjhoban · 2019-06-01T02:50:10.243Z

It is absurd a developer to say that the solution to a problem of your game, that you play 2 years with the active antivirus, which is something of the utmost importance in the middle of 2019, is to shut down your antivirus.
As someone professional in the area can tell people, hey guys turn off your antivirus and open your computer to every possible virus, knowing they exist and how much they can damage a system.
I expect clear explanations and solutions as I buy all DLCs just to encourage them to support the game and I’m not feeling rewarded right now.

Rangerman · 2019-06-01T06:52:23.177Z

Just as an FYI and not really trying to troll this thread or anything.

I am VERY security conscious of my computer and other devices I use. I have been using computers for approximately 35 years. I build my own computers from components and am pretty familiar with hardware issues and what can cause them and how to resolve them. Not so good at software generally. I believe this only serves to make me even more security conscious because I’m not very familiar with how software works from a programing level.

In all my years of computer usage I have never gotten a virus so bad on my computer that i’ve had to completely crash windows and reformat my HDD and reinstall windows. I have gotten about 3 or 4 viruses over the years that might have become serious enough to cause significant problems with my computer but at the same time I had fairly decent antivirus software to ward this off.

I have over my computer lifetime used Norton AV and McAfee AV and Kaspersky off and on depending on which one was a better deal at the time and/or might have come for free from a particular source or service I am using. I have also used Windows Defender for some spans also.

I do not work for Norton or McAfee or Windows or anyone else and i’m not pimping these programs for some kind of financial gain or anything. I’m just trying to illustrate something i’ve noticed in many years of experience with general computer software as far as antivirus.

I am very leery of most any other antivirus program because i’ve noticed that it seems like everytime Norton or McAfee and Kaspersky to a lesser extent comes up with a new way to possibly spot virus activity in files, many MANY other programs seem to try to add this to their to their program ASAP, to better or worse results.

It appears the aprox 15 people who have posted in here about this problem are EXTREMELY worried about computer security, for better or worse, and at some point the border between excessive paranoia vs logical conclusion seems to slide around a bit.

ALOT of antivirus programs are not very good. I’d say probably over half of them TBH. And when an issue like this comes up it seems like logical thought gets frequently tossed out the window in favor of the blame game about what in this case Funcom did wrong in causing this to happen, which is probably the furthest thing from the real truth. Several people in here who are far more known in regard to reliability of information and helpfulness in this game have already tried to calm the flames and apparently this was all for naught.

In posting this i’m not trying to specifically irritate anyone in particular. I’m simply trying to present the reality of the situation, both from my personal point of view and experience, and from information already posted, from a different direction to see if this possibly results in a new way at looking at the situation from a more logical perspective.

My apologies for this being a very long drawn out post but I had alot of thoughts about the problem after reading thru all of the comments in this thread and forming an opinion.

Overtkill · 2019-06-01T08:59:11.720Z

Are there any solutions? Ok, Avira killed grGranite dll, restored, doesn’t work. Any official explanations?