There’s often a bias that calls your attention to a build and its accompanied environment. Now I may be wrong, but I’m not sure you provided examples of these builds. I understand though. I hate box bases and sloppy designs as you know, and I’m far more inclined to show disgust with a build as a wasted opportunity if I hate how it looks. It’s a subconscious feeling that directs my attention to something. As I said, I could be wrong, as could everyone else, but I don’t think you showed any examples explicitly. I didn’t actually go through and read this entire topic as it just became you and @CodeMage trading blows for a while and I lost interest. I’m just providing my two cents on the immediate accusation of him going outside the box you put your argument into after the fact.