# Shield second cry for love

**URL:** <https://forums.funcom.com/t/shield-second-cry-for-love/213851>\
**Category:** Feedback\
**Created:** [November 30, 2022, 11:43am UTC](https://forums.funcom.com/t/shield-second-cry-for-love/213851 "2022-11-30T11:43:25Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 11\
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**Author:** ![Bourgmestre](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/funcom/user_avatar/forums.funcom.com/bourgmestre/32/1943_2.png) [@Bourgmestre](https://forums.funcom.com/u/Bourgmestre)\
**Post date:** [November 30, 2022, 11:43am UTC](https://forums.funcom.com/t/shield-second-cry-for-love/213851/1 "2022-11-30T11:43:25Z")

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> [@Shield's desesperate cry for love \[A proposition for repairing shield\]](https://forums.funcom.com/t/shields-desesperate-cry-for-love-a-proposition-for-repairing-shield/212822):
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> Curently, shield have a huge problem regarding the heavy attack combo pair with a sword. Specificaly the second and fourth attack. Right now those 2 & 4 hit’s hitbox are missplaced and a bit too mutch to the left, making them failing to hit an opponent in front. I’ve made a drawing to represent this problem. Sure there is a lock target function that exist, and the hit are consistent with it, but not everyone enjoy playing with, and on most private pvp server it is disabled anyway. …

And add a pet snake ?

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**Author:** ![rolee9309](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/funcom/user_avatar/forums.funcom.com/rolee9309/32/72258_2.png) [@rolee9309](https://forums.funcom.com/u/rolee9309)\
**Post date:** [November 30, 2022, 12:25pm UTC](https://forums.funcom.com/t/shield-second-cry-for-love/213851/2 "2022-11-30T12:25:09Z")

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I now hate regular swords. I never liked them. Before that, there was a “tactic” which involded spamming light attack with a sword (looking at you black ice one, and Predatory blade) which was a bit too much, but now they are very unpredictable.  
The swords should have differen movesets, because - especially with shield as you mentioned - they miss a lot.

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**Author:** ![stelagel](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/funcom/user_avatar/forums.funcom.com/stelagel/32/37108_2.png) [@stelagel](https://forums.funcom.com/u/stelagel)\
**Post date:** [November 30, 2022, 12:47pm UTC](https://forums.funcom.com/t/shield-second-cry-for-love/213851/3 "2022-11-30T12:47:06Z")

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> [@rolee9309](#):
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> they miss a lot.

Light light, heavy heavy! You miss less!  
If you charge with heavy, the second must be light, especially the second heavy miss very easy.  
Actually the greatest nerf from all the weapons was in great swords, they loose combo extremely easy right now.  
Unexpected, the punching daggers or claws “stun” your opponents (pve) and it’s one of the weapons that you almost cannot loose combo so you apply 4 heavy very easy!

> [@Bourgmestre](#):
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> And add a pet snake ?

They said that they will think about it because small snakes are difficult targets. They think about it however but it’s not in their priorities.

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**Author:** ![rolee9309](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/funcom/user_avatar/forums.funcom.com/rolee9309/32/72258_2.png) [@rolee9309](https://forums.funcom.com/u/rolee9309)\
**Post date:** [November 30, 2022, 1:04pm UTC](https://forums.funcom.com/t/shield-second-cry-for-love/213851/4 "2022-11-30T13:04:12Z")

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I always use one handed weapons with offhand or shield, and I like the shield bash when finishing a heavy combo, but heavy with a shield when using a one handed sword misses a lot. So I pass the swords almost entirely, and I use a mace instead.

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**Author:** ![JJDancer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/funcom/user_avatar/forums.funcom.com/jjdancer/32/85091_2.png) [@JJDancer](https://forums.funcom.com/u/JJDancer)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2022, 2:10am UTC](https://forums.funcom.com/t/shield-second-cry-for-love/213851/5 "2022-12-02T02:10:17Z")

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> [@rolee9309](#):
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> I use a mace instead

Same, I gave up on swords, they go all over the place. Love the mace precision.

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**Author:** ![MarcosC](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/funcom/user_avatar/forums.funcom.com/marcosc/32/101355_2.png) [@MarcosC](https://forums.funcom.com/u/MarcosC)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2022, 10:00am UTC](https://forums.funcom.com/t/shield-second-cry-for-love/213851/6 "2022-12-02T10:00:45Z")

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I can still place the thrust attack with swords without a problem. The mace isn’t as precise if you are aiming very specific targets. For instance, if my thrall is caputuring another and there’s a mob surrounding it, the sword is a very good weapon to kill these enemies without risking killing our capture, as long as we stick to the thrust attack and only perform combos when the aggro is on us and we gain some distance from where the capture is taking place. It can be done with a mace, but we need to be very careful with the aoe attacks. That’s the only occasion where I miss a sword, being an overall mace swinger myself.

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**Author:** ![Octavian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/54ee81/32.png) [@Octavian](https://forums.funcom.com/u/Octavian)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2022, 3:04pm UTC](https://forums.funcom.com/t/shield-second-cry-for-love/213851/7 "2022-12-02T15:04:46Z")

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> [@JJDancer](#):
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> > [@rolee9309](#):
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> > I use a mace instead
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> Same, I gave up on swords, they go all over the place. Love the mace precision.

Agree… Ever since I played Conan, I thought swords worthless in that you just end up all over the place and not hitting your target. Do the devs actually play the game?

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**Author:** ![erjoh](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/funcom/user_avatar/forums.funcom.com/erjoh/32/91362_2.png) [@erjoh](https://forums.funcom.com/u/erjoh)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2022, 7:02pm UTC](https://forums.funcom.com/t/shield-second-cry-for-love/213851/8 "2022-12-02T19:02:36Z")

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> [@stelagel](#):
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> They said that they will think about it because small snakes are difficult targets. They think about it however but it’s not in their priorities.

I don’t see it happening for the small kind. I would sooo put 20 leveled cobras in a room. Imagine getting max poison within 2-4 seconds with constant and annoying bites to keep it up and slowly drop your health.

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**Author:** ![stelagel](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/funcom/user_avatar/forums.funcom.com/stelagel/32/37108_2.png) [@stelagel](https://forums.funcom.com/u/stelagel)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2022, 7:11pm UTC](https://forums.funcom.com/t/shield-second-cry-for-love/213851/9 "2022-12-02T19:11:25Z")

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@erjoh  
I don’t funcy snakes tbh 🤣🤣🤣. Neither is hard for me to kill.  
Imagine that all your cobras is just 2 gas (or acid) arrows even if they are lvl 20.  
Big snakes already have a buggy animation even in pve. The snake fight is already laggy!  
Even before 2.4 snake purges were almost crashing private servers that couldn’t crash with full PvP across the map.  
Forgive me but I am not convinced from the “excuse” that snakes are not easy target 😉.  
For PvP, once more, spiders and hyenas are the best! They are annoying, the opponent must kill them because they break balls and the inventory log at once tells you that someone is in your base. I was using them for distance door bells 😉.

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**Author:** ![Kapoteeni](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/funcom/user_avatar/forums.funcom.com/kapoteeni/32/18476_2.png) [@Kapoteeni](https://forums.funcom.com/u/Kapoteeni)\
**Post date:** [December 5, 2022, 10:33am UTC](https://forums.funcom.com/t/shield-second-cry-for-love/213851/10 "2022-12-05T10:33:53Z")

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> [@Octavian](#):
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> Agree… Ever since I played Conan, I thought swords worthless in that you just end up all over the place and not hitting your target. Do the devs actually play the game?

I’ve been a sword-user for a long time, and I still prefer swords for their animation patterns against certain enemy types, human NPCs in particular.

To each their own, I guess.

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**Author:** ![system](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/funcom/original/1X/8d85ca8a66fb78fa7574e255b50aa722d634177b.png) [@system](https://forums.funcom.com/u/system)\
**Post date:** [December 12, 2022, 10:34am UTC](https://forums.funcom.com/t/shield-second-cry-for-love/213851/11 "2022-12-12T10:34:40Z")

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