# Short sword: Add some kind of condition

**URL:** <https://forums.funcom.com/t/short-sword-add-some-kind-of-condition/93595>\
**Category:** Feedback\
**Created:** [November 12, 2019, 11:33pm UTC](https://forums.funcom.com/t/short-sword-add-some-kind-of-condition/93595 "2019-11-12T23:33:57Z")\
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**Author:** ![Abomineer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/funcom/user_avatar/forums.funcom.com/abomineer/32/29411_2.png) [@Abomineer](https://forums.funcom.com/u/Abomineer)\
**Post date:** [November 12, 2019, 11:33pm UTC](https://forums.funcom.com/t/short-sword-add-some-kind-of-condition/93595/1 "2019-11-12T23:33:57Z")

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I know as proposed there was a desire to wait and see how the shortsword is used before adding off-hand combos, knockdown, bleed, sunder, and/or cripple to the short sword, but please consider adding _something_ as a placeholder that will trigger the 2nd tier Strength perk. If you aren’t applying a condition and don’t have a partner or thrall that is, the weapon is missing out on the 25% damage boost and will seldom be used.

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**Author:** ![08wax08](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/0/db5fbb/32.png) [@08wax08](https://forums.funcom.com/u/08wax08)\
**Post date:** [November 13, 2019, 11:02am UTC](https://forums.funcom.com/t/short-sword-add-some-kind-of-condition/93595/2 "2019-11-13T11:02:27Z")

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What if the short swords don’t do much damage but have a high percent of armour penetration?

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**Author:** ![Loke](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/c68b51/32.png) [@Loke](https://forums.funcom.com/u/Loke)\
**Post date:** [November 13, 2019, 4:26pm UTC](https://forums.funcom.com/t/short-sword-add-some-kind-of-condition/93595/3 "2019-11-13T16:26:04Z")

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I would love a bleed on the 2nd and 3rd light chain. It would make a cool playstyle where you go in for small quick jabs and back of and repeat. It’s how these swords often were used.

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**Author:** ![SuperDuperOtter](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e9bcb4/32.png) [@SuperDuperOtter](https://forums.funcom.com/u/SuperDuperOtter)\
**Post date:** [November 13, 2019, 4:36pm UTC](https://forums.funcom.com/t/short-sword-add-some-kind-of-condition/93595/4 "2019-11-13T16:36:14Z")

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The main reason i don’t use short sowrd is because they need repairing considerably more often than my weapons of choise. Other wise, i’d use short sowrd alot more as i think they work pretty well as is.

That said, short sowrd do have an interresting effect dispite not having bleeds or sundder or whatelse : they stun-lock on light attack due to high speed.

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**Author:** ![system](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/funcom/original/1X/8d85ca8a66fb78fa7574e255b50aa722d634177b.png) [@system](https://forums.funcom.com/u/system)\
**Post date:** [November 20, 2019, 9:48pm UTC](https://forums.funcom.com/t/short-sword-add-some-kind-of-condition/93595/5 "2019-11-20T21:48:24Z")

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