# Steel vs Sandstone to weak **URL:** \ **Category:** Feedback\ **Tags:** suggestion, pc\ **Created:** [May 17, 2018, 11:54am UTC](https://forums.funcom.com/t/steel-vs-sandstone-to-weak/8292 "2018-05-17T11:54:41Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 14\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![FightzGamer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/funcom/user_avatar/forums.funcom.com/fightzgamer/32/9168_2.png) [@FightzGamer](https://forums.funcom.com/u/FightzGamer)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2018, 11:54am UTC](https://forums.funcom.com/t/steel-vs-sandstone-to-weak/8292/1 "2018-05-17T11:54:41Z")
Hello, I have been playing the game in pvp for about 100 houres now. I know that is not that much but to me i seams like that Steel weapons only do 1 damage per hit to a 10K sandstone building. Considering how hard it is to get explosives in early game, maybe 1 damage is a little to low? I would suggest increasing the damage to maybe 100 per hit or maybe we need a new early game weapon that can do more damage to sandstone buildings? If i have missed something, please do tell me? 😅 / Shepard ---
**Author:** ![QLMX](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/838e76/32.png) [@QLMX](https://forums.funcom.com/u/QLMX)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2018, 1:15pm UTC](https://forums.funcom.com/t/steel-vs-sandstone-to-weak/8292/2 "2018-05-17T13:15:04Z")
Personally I like it the way it is. Players are basically forced to make explosives to be able to get into someone’s house. ---
**Author:** ![Hrafn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Hrafn](https://forums.funcom.com/u/Hrafn)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2018, 1:35pm UTC](https://forums.funcom.com/t/steel-vs-sandstone-to-weak/8292/3 "2018-05-17T13:35:47Z")
Make higher tier easier to get into but keep tier 1 as it is. Unless you want to keep solo players out of the pvp servers ofc. ---
**Author:** ![ExNihiloish](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/funcom/user_avatar/forums.funcom.com/exnihiloish/32/4974_2.png) [@ExNihiloish](https://forums.funcom.com/u/ExNihiloish)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2018, 4:23pm UTC](https://forums.funcom.com/t/steel-vs-sandstone-to-weak/8292/4 "2018-05-17T16:23:01Z")
How strong are demonfire orbs against structures? With the release of the swamp, they’re much easier to make now. We can get a lot more volatile glands. I got 11 from one salamander, that’s enough for nearly four orbs. The volatile imps only give 1 each. ---
**Author:** ![tehemperorer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/funcom/user_avatar/forums.funcom.com/tehemperorer/32/3021_2.png) [@tehemperorer](https://forums.funcom.com/u/tehemperorer)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2018, 4:40pm UTC](https://forums.funcom.com/t/steel-vs-sandstone-to-weak/8292/5 "2018-05-17T16:40:29Z")
I agree, explosives are very easy to get now I don’t think upping steel dmg to structure is a good idea ---
**Author:** ![ExNihiloish](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/funcom/user_avatar/forums.funcom.com/exnihiloish/32/4974_2.png) [@ExNihiloish](https://forums.funcom.com/u/ExNihiloish)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2018, 4:42pm UTC](https://forums.funcom.com/t/steel-vs-sandstone-to-weak/8292/6 "2018-05-17T16:42:01Z")
I don’t PvP myself so I really was curious as to whether or not that was a viable method. I use four poison and one demon fire orb to bust open meteors, so it just seemed like that could work on player structures as well. If so, that’s a very cheap way of going about it. ---
**Author:** ![tehemperorer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/funcom/user_avatar/forums.funcom.com/tehemperorer/32/3021_2.png) [@tehemperorer](https://forums.funcom.com/u/tehemperorer)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2018, 5:32pm UTC](https://forums.funcom.com/t/steel-vs-sandstone-to-weak/8292/7 "2018-05-17T17:32:29Z")
Yeah against sandstone it’s 9 grease 1 demon fire afaik ---
**Author:** ![ExNihiloish](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/funcom/user_avatar/forums.funcom.com/exnihiloish/32/4974_2.png) [@ExNihiloish](https://forums.funcom.com/u/ExNihiloish)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2018, 5:34pm UTC](https://forums.funcom.com/t/steel-vs-sandstone-to-weak/8292/8 "2018-05-17T17:34:43Z")
Ah, interesting. I tried grease and fire on meteors and it hardly did anything at all. Poison gas plus fire causes a powerful explosion. I’ll take grease if I ever PvP though. Thanks. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Savage](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/funcom/user_avatar/forums.funcom.com/savage/32/5414_2.png) [@Savage](https://forums.funcom.com/u/Savage)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2018, 6:04pm UTC](https://forums.funcom.com/t/steel-vs-sandstone-to-weak/8292/9 "2018-05-17T18:04:50Z")
Getting suck inside an enemy base because they happened to seal the exit or close a door behind you is somewhat cartoonish. There should be lockpicks at least. Something you can consume to open a door or a chest ONCE, and which takes at least 30 seconds without moving. It would work only for the lowest tiers, forcing high level players to still use explosives later on. I want to infiltrate the enemy base without having to tear through their walls. I’m a thief, not a conqueror. ---
**Author:** ![Zaraki](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/b5ac83/32.png) [@Zaraki](https://forums.funcom.com/u/Zaraki)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2018, 6:05pm UTC](https://forums.funcom.com/t/steel-vs-sandstone-to-weak/8292/10 "2018-05-17T18:05:58Z")
It’s so easy to make demon orb and tar orb… dont even need explosive… so stop being lazy and go make some. ---
**Author:** ![FightzGamer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/funcom/user_avatar/forums.funcom.com/fightzgamer/32/9168_2.png) [@FightzGamer](https://forums.funcom.com/u/FightzGamer)\ **Post date:** [May 18, 2018, 9:50am UTC](https://forums.funcom.com/t/steel-vs-sandstone-to-weak/8292/11 "2018-05-18T09:50:11Z")
Yeah, i did not know that you could make stuff like that to damage buildings 😉 If this works then it s not so hard to do damage to sandstone as i thought 😅 ---
**Author:** ![FightzGamer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/funcom/user_avatar/forums.funcom.com/fightzgamer/32/9168_2.png) [@FightzGamer](https://forums.funcom.com/u/FightzGamer)\ **Post date:** [May 18, 2018, 9:51am UTC](https://forums.funcom.com/t/steel-vs-sandstone-to-weak/8292/12 "2018-05-18T09:51:44Z")
Thanks for explaining this to me 🙂 I did not know you could do that 😀 Now i can remove some buildings that are blocking a metal spawn 🤣 ---
**Author:** ![ExNihiloish](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/funcom/user_avatar/forums.funcom.com/exnihiloish/32/4974_2.png) [@ExNihiloish](https://forums.funcom.com/u/ExNihiloish)\ **Post date:** [May 18, 2018, 9:56am UTC](https://forums.funcom.com/t/steel-vs-sandstone-to-weak/8292/13 "2018-05-18T09:56:32Z")
Good luck! I just know it works well on meteors, I play on single player so I never tried on buildings. ---
**Author:** ![system](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/funcom/original/1X/8d85ca8a66fb78fa7574e255b50aa722d634177b.png) [@system](https://forums.funcom.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2018, 5:44pm UTC](https://forums.funcom.com/t/steel-vs-sandstone-to-weak/8292/14 "2018-10-19T17:44:21Z")
Closed on October 19, 2018, 5:44pm UTC