Teimos best tank in Auth build

Balgard · 2023-03-30T09:17:54.191Z

And I want FS to give it a good look over. Have U (outside of AoC or EEWA. My Teimos will beat Dal. Why are U guys like so afraid of Teimos being better. Unfortunatley I cant go head to head with all my Dals. since 3.0 have created like at least 25 Dals and Zerks.

"If Teimos is wielding a 50 damage weapon, then he is only dealing 36.4 damage to start with.
(50 * 0.728 = 36.4) "

so can u explain with that math (very good btw) How can my Teimos even hit for 400+ on the warmaker. The equation doesnt work…

For a very a killer tank best for newbs at least. But Funcom actually has changed the spawn time to about 25%. (either that or like I was unlucky?

DaVice · 2023-03-30T09:32:56.542Z

It just dawned on me, this “FS” person you are talking about is @Firespark81 isn’t it? You literally already had @Tephra (who works on the official Conan Exiles Wiki) give you exact numbers, but you would prefer to hear it from a streamer?

Kapoteeni · 2023-03-30T11:55:12.783Z

Balgard:

so can u explain with that math (very good btw) How can my Teimos even hit for 400+ on the warmaker. The equation doesnt work…

Are you playing on official servers, or on a private or Single-Player with non-standard damage multipliers?

Frankenstein · 2023-03-30T11:59:45.769Z

Ive never liked teimos myself even before the nerf ,yeah he had a lot of health but he hits like a little girl,your thralls dont need a lot of health if you kill everything fast!!

b3l14l · 2023-03-30T13:27:18.615Z

I used to use Teimos exclusively. Literally had like 20 of them hanging out at the base since they were so easy to get. After the nerf, I tried using him and just didn’t like him. Even got a few killed. Switched to RHTS at that point.

But on our servers, we also allow “special” thralls like Ladagara, AC, Succubus, Krampus, etc who just obliterate the standard thralls. So most of the Teimos, DS, RHTS have become decorations for the most part anyways

Still wouldn’t mind having a few Karthoks in the box tho

Khaletohep · 2023-03-30T17:06:53.063Z

Maybe this will help:

He shows some of the hidden modifiers at 04:00.

It’s questionable game design to hide them and is a real bummer to everyone who discovers that hidden feature. But doesn’t change that they do exist.

Jimbo · 2023-03-30T17:23:47.892Z

Using teimos post-3.0

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demonado · 2023-03-30T17:56:21.147Z

Best tank - T3 Bearers with 1.4k hp and poison weapons

Xevyr · 2023-03-30T18:29:29.409Z

Balgard:

Great numbers. I will still destroy Del, forget the base stats we all start with.
YOU ME NOW do u really want to be embarresed? So HOW can I take Dal with anything better then I tested. Like Really? As I said I gave my entire resources to do it.

Are you… trolling?

Sorry, I have to ask… the first posts in the other thread were fine, because I figured you don’t know any better, then I linked you the spreadsheet with the relevant data.

Which btw is directly from the game source files… so the game actually uses those stats… including the hidden damage modifiers

Balgard:

And I want FS to give it a good look over.

Also… since this is the THIRD time you mention it (just form the posts I read so far), I must point out…
While Firespark is an okay youtuber and has some entertaining videos that I sometimes occasionally enjoy watching here and there… so this is nothing against him… he is really not the best at setting up clean tests or even giving out factual information…

Balgard · 2023-03-30T20:32:06.627Z

Now that is funny but true lol. Bearers need a good nerf.

I have seen that Video. I cant personally test my theories. U need 2 players in order to give an auth build with well trained to both thralls. FS to me has the best/most analytical mind. I trust his stats more than any other.

And so, like I said W/O an authority build with well trained Teimos is crap. Have run tests with Del and zerks. Teimos puts up more dmg and better HP then Del. Run the tst yourselves. I cant test head to head between Teimos and Del. But w/out that Assuming the elyxir of re-birth. giving the same or close to the same Vit and STR. My Teimos does more dmg and with better HP by about 800hp.

So FS tsts your saying are not valid. Then have someone at FunCom or whoever u think is best suitable for this test. So prove me wrong have someone who can legit tst this.

Keep in mind I said apples to apples. Therefore the tst has to have Del (or whoever) and Teimos in a auth build with well trained. apples to apples Teimos is definetly in the top 5. and although it appears that funcom has changed the Teimos spawn rate. which is overdue I hope they can make the encounter soo much more difficult. Till then It’s like too easy to get teimos with stats that can rival Del/Zerks.

And IF U YOUSELF can tst and prove my theory then I will never post here again. (except for bugs lol)

Bal

Jimbo · 2023-03-30T20:36:15.146Z

Balgard:

And IF U YOUSELF can tst and prove my theory then I will never post here again. (except for bugs lol)

It already was proven to you, and you elected to ignore it. The data is not on your side, and just because you refute it with biased anectodes doesn’t change reality.

Xevyr · 2023-03-30T20:36:20.909Z

Post a screenshot of your Teimos that you captured post 3.0

Balgard · 2023-03-30T20:39:03.858Z

This is my current Teimos Build

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Bal

Balgard · 2023-03-30T20:41:12.983Z

And this is my current Del.

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Balgard · 2023-03-30T20:45:02.295Z

Soory wrong screen shot.

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Xevyr · 2023-03-30T20:49:44.590Z

Okay… so what would you consider a fair test?
Not counting Well Trained temporary bonus, your current Teimos has:
+29 Strength (had a starting str of 1)
+28 Agility (had starting 30)
+28 Vitality (had starting 3)

Would you want a test to add these values on to a stock Dalinsia so that they have a identical amount of leveled attributes? (plus any perks ofc)

Strength: 15 + 29
Agility: 0 + 28
Vitality: 30 + 28

Or… would you just like to see how YOUR 2 thralls compare?

Balgard · 2023-03-30T20:55:52.136Z

Sorry wrong pic. this is closer to teimos.

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LOL did I just not say that. W/O the auth -well trained Del destoys Teimos. I think people are confused when it comes down to any other Build.

This IS only once again with the well trained perk. In any other build outside of teimos then the tst is not valid. wouldn’r u agree. Any other build would destroy teimos. hands down.

Xevyr · 2023-03-30T20:57:41.925Z

I understand that… I am asking how do you want them to be… I’m constructing your thralls from scratch

I’ll just copy the pictures you sent then

Balgard · 2023-03-30T20:58:48.618Z

I think they are all perfect. no change needed other than increasing the HP/DMG on all the tamers in that camp.

Balgard · 2023-03-30T21:01:33.180Z

IF your looking for a way to tsest that. change the perks to be the same. i have little control over that. and quite literally out of resources to make elixr of rebirth. definetly very expensive to keep my tests up.