Perhaps a PvP weekend would be good, then? Double rewards for finishing Shambala, Triple for winning.
Or just make that a general change.
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andyb, Thanx for beeing âcrystal clearâ! 
This may even be a good way for them to test permanent reward changes
Andy, thank you for answer.
I do not consider myself as a pvper, but back in TSW I really enjoyed pvp. In fact, it was the only game I have pvped. I miss pvp in SWL (and The Secret War or at least some more faction rivalry).
As we know we will not get any of old maps, I would try to be constructive and have some ideas how to make SWL pvp a little more appealing for more people with no so much workâŚ
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As already mentioned, lower Shambala teams to 5.
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Reconsider rewards. Make them a liitle more attractive. I donât mind any RNG even. What about idea to have few unique agents, with very low chances to get them if you are in a winning team. And maybe even to have few very unique ones who would appear in loot for limited times only. This may work as some kind of âeventâ: for a limited time (a week maybe) there is a chance to get an attention of some professional who will join your agent team. As I said I would not mind, if it would be RNG based and chances would not be high. It would be far better than nothing we have now.
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What about some agents for pvp achievements? I would recommend tie them to winning achievements/killing player ones. It may motivate people try to be active in pvp and not afk for rewards only.
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We have 3 fight clubs and they could be used in more creative way. What about some kind of tournament sponsored by Council of Venice.
I have few ideas but most of them would require more coding/database work. It should be as much simple as possible. What about a chance to have for this kind of âeventâ one prefered fight club and each pvp victory would give us some special currency and buy something at a special vendor?
Of course I have better ideas eg. to have events when the victories in event fight club would be counted for each faction across whole population and it would enable have more sophisticated options how the events build. But this would require far more coding/database workâŚ
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In fairness, even Tilty himself said itâs going to take âcasualsâ about a week to finish this. Unless youâve committed to âone mission a month and no moreâ itâs still not going to take all that long.
But yes, if you burn through it really fast, well, guess what, you burned through it really fast and thatâs all there is.
And that is a good thing. I still do not understand why some people here want PvP back in SWL while the new gameplay cannot provide an enjoyable experience. For those who want PvP, you have TSW. The game is still open. I am pretty sure if you suggest PvP events, people will answer the call.
Maybe one day, Funcom will release a TSW game devoted to PvP with the good old combat system but with some graphic and animation improvements, more maps, the carbon character system and the possibility of fighting with your clothing style 
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For me? I have no time for several games, I enjoy some level of faction rivalry in Secret World universe, I like diversity as SWL has very limited content and it is easy to burn outâŚ
To my knowledge most of the maps were removed from TSW also. I believe only Fusang is still operational. Atleast this is what Iâve hear from efforts made to pop the other PVP zones even with more then enough players qued.
This is me also. I work 12 hours a day and donât get chance to play as often as I like but even with limited time and an honest effort to take my time through things I still hit a wall.
So, what we play next? andyB was clear enought so I lost interest to play both TSW and SWL 
Well as Andy said the game is not designed for it which is a shockingly honest perspective compared to other MMOs that think they can balance abilities around killing monsters with 10-100x the HP of players and killing those same players.
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I agree you wholely. SWL PvP will be a shallow compared to TSW. But, as andyb said, FC wont spend resources to TSW. And last PvP Event in TSW, about month a go, big thing to talk about was NM Raid gear. I dont care about Raid gear, I love my Purple Riposte more than any of those Raid drops. By saying this, TSW PvP will turn to NM raid gear drama as it was before SWL announcement. There will not be tweaks to this, so all TSW PvP will also have whinery about this issue, and I dont want to hear/read it in General/Forums/nowhere anymore.
Im happy that andyb made clear statements, and oâboy have we poked him for that answer from early Reddit days to this day. PvP is dead in Secret World, at least it is to me. No point.
But, as I said, there were lots of talking about it in Disco. I dont want to see anymore talking about that. I think that if they are in the game, players have right to wear them everywhere. I dont want to see whinery about peoples using them, thats my point. And not everyone follow rules, especially if there are numbers of player participating in PvP (event or not).
Point is, that there is no nothing, if everything have to be an organized Event. Events dont work to all peoples. I am not willing to keep dead thing alive by organizing anything, especially after clear answers from andyb. I play because I want to hop in the game and do stuff, not waiting something to happen. It is not hard, but does it have a point. I have done my fair share of community service in TSW and have no will nor energy to do anything anymore. I think you know what I mean, at the moment you shut down the Disco.
I really don´t know ^^. I´m a MMORPG-âNomadâ at the moment ^^.
While the removal of many abilities and passives and the lack of build diversity would definitely make the PvP pretty dull, I think that another element that makes it difficult to have PvP in the game is the poor performance of the game engine (and the high ping average). I remember back in ED I had around 1-10 FPS near the relics (and it wasnât much better in the other pvp minigames).
And latency/FPS are extremely important in PvP compared to PvE/story.
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Hehe. I have clip somewhere from Lunar Golem and afterfight. FPS 1-3 
There were tricks you could do to get better performance and I posted some sort of list to do in TSW forums. Helped me a lot.
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I think i had 1-3 frames per minute there 
Plus 2-4 sec latency 
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Thank you Andy for your very clear response.
I am a sad DixieChic, and know that the 30-50 folks that have been randomly checking in for a pvp update will be sad too. I will post in our discord today. cries
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Are u f-words hiding somewhere after last Disco shut down? 