# Thrall guards keep changing direction, sinking into floors, not staying as I placed them **URL:** \ **Category:** PC Bug Reports\ **Tags:** feedback, bug, steam\ **Created:** [November 17, 2021, 12:45am UTC](https://forums.funcom.com/t/thrall-guards-keep-changing-direction-sinking-into-floors-not-staying-as-i-placed-them/182629 "2021-11-17T00:45:13Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 4\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Ordon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/ba8739/32.png) [@Ordon](https://forums.funcom.com/u/Ordon)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2021, 12:45am UTC](https://forums.funcom.com/t/thrall-guards-keep-changing-direction-sinking-into-floors-not-staying-as-i-placed-them/182629/1 "2021-11-17T00:45:13Z")
Game mode: Online private Type of issue: Bug | Other Server type: PvE Region: NA Mods?: No Edition: Steam * * * ## Bug Description: Thrall guards routinely do not stay as I placed them. They will rotate, sink into the ground, sometimes even be in a different spot without having interacted with any enemies. It isn’t related to server restarts; it happens when I relog, it sometimes even seems to happen during the same session. Could you please make it so that they stay exactly as I place them, at least if not acted upon by an outside force? Thrall inertia, let’s call it. I would like my guards to not face the wall or melt like we’re in Oz. * * * ## Steps to Reproduce: Please provide a step-by-step process of how the bug can be reproduced. Please be as detailed as possible; the more details, the easier it will be for us to find and fix the bug: 1. Step 1, place Thrall guard 2. Step 2, play game 3. Step 3, basically always they will eventually be rotated or sunk or in the wrong spot 4. be aggravated, ask for help, ??? profit 🙂 (it won’t let me upload images, but I have some) ---
**Author:** ![DanQuixote](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/funcom/user_avatar/forums.funcom.com/danquixote/32/69196_2.png) [@DanQuixote](https://forums.funcom.com/u/DanQuixote)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2021, 8:11am UTC](https://forums.funcom.com/t/thrall-guards-keep-changing-direction-sinking-into-floors-not-staying-as-i-placed-them/182629/2 "2021-11-17T08:11:32Z")
Hi and welcome to the forums 🙂 Yeah, this is still happening quite a bit. It can certainly get a bit frustrating. I’m just going to add a link here to an older report, because it includes a video and timestamps that show the problem in action. > [@Followers 'wandering' while on guard bug (video)](https://forums.funcom.com/t/followers-wandering-while-on-guard-bug-video/178864): > > Game mode: [SELECT ONE] Online official | Online private | Single-player | Co-op Type of issue: [SELECT ONE] Crash | Bug | Performance | Other Server type: [SELECT ONE] PvP | PvE-Conflict | PvE Region: [Please enter your server region] Mods?: [Are mods installed: Yes | No] Edition: [Select one: Steam | Microsoft Store | Game Pass] I know this has already been quite widely reported, but I’ve just encountered a video that illustrates exactly the behaviour that is being talked about - … ---
**Author:** ![DanQuixote](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/funcom/user_avatar/forums.funcom.com/danquixote/32/69196_2.png) [@DanQuixote](https://forums.funcom.com/u/DanQuixote)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2021, 9:25am UTC](https://forums.funcom.com/t/thrall-guards-keep-changing-direction-sinking-into-floors-not-staying-as-i-placed-them/182629/4 "2021-11-17T09:25:53Z")
Not always. Don’t blink. ![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/funcom/original/3X/d/e/de3f12030d62861e45f41ecd41d23be3f2598f4c.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![system](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/funcom/original/1X/8d85ca8a66fb78fa7574e255b50aa722d634177b.png) [@system](https://forums.funcom.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2021, 9:27am UTC](https://forums.funcom.com/t/thrall-guards-keep-changing-direction-sinking-into-floors-not-staying-as-i-placed-them/182629/6 "2021-12-01T09:27:36Z")
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