# Thrall Nerf Question **URL:** \ **Category:** Players Helping Players\ **Tags:** ps4\ **Created:** [October 5, 2022, 10:12am UTC](https://forums.funcom.com/t/thrall-nerf-question/209199 "2022-10-05T10:12:21Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Paolo1977](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/c2a13f/32.png) [@Paolo1977](https://forums.funcom.com/u/Paolo1977)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2022, 10:12am UTC](https://forums.funcom.com/t/thrall-nerf-question/209199/1 "2022-10-05T10:12:21Z")
Hello Exiles I know Beastmaster Teimos got a reduction in his hit points recently. But is Dalinsia Snowhunter still any good? Is she worth hanging onto? Any thoughts? ---
**Author:** ![DaVice](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/funcom/user_avatar/forums.funcom.com/davice/32/75382_2.png) [@DaVice](https://forums.funcom.com/u/DaVice)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2022, 10:39am UTC](https://forums.funcom.com/t/thrall-nerf-question/209199/2 "2022-10-05T10:39:49Z")
Dalinsia Snowhunter has always been (and is still) one of the best thralls to tame. Gratz on your find, not only is she good but she is rare, which makes her a bit of a trophy too. 👍 🕶 👍 ---
**Author:** ![LostBrythunian](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/funcom/user_avatar/forums.funcom.com/lostbrythunian/32/98171_2.png) [@LostBrythunian](https://forums.funcom.com/u/LostBrythunian)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2022, 11:11am UTC](https://forums.funcom.com/t/thrall-nerf-question/209199/3 "2022-10-05T11:11:23Z")
Complicated question. Is she still good? As far as Thralls go, she is still near the top of the pile, specifically for Strength Melee. Is she worth hanging on to? If you already had one… Maybe. Probably not. They added the Grit stat to Thralls. The Grit stat does what Agility used to do, it improves armour rating. Existing thralls in play have a Grit stat of 0. If they are already max level, that Grit will never increase. Existing thralls also had their hit points reduced to be in line with current thrall standards. So, an existing Snowhunter may not be worth hanging on to unless she has exceptionally good Strength and Vitality. Especially as Perks can be rerolled via potion now. You may be better off catching a new Dalinsia. While thralls, in general, aren’t nearly as good as they used to be… that can be adjusted with an Authority build. Dalinsia remains a top pick, but whether you’ll want a combatant thrall anymore is a question. ---
**Author:** ![wotannatow](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f1d935/32.png) [@wotannatow](https://forums.funcom.com/u/wotannatow)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2022, 12:28pm UTC](https://forums.funcom.com/t/thrall-nerf-question/209199/4 "2022-10-05T12:28:53Z")
Top 3 best thralls to get: Relic Hunter Treasure Seeker Cimmerian Berserker Dalinsia Snowhunter ---
**Author:** ![Kapoteeni](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/funcom/user_avatar/forums.funcom.com/kapoteeni/32/18476_2.png) [@Kapoteeni](https://forums.funcom.com/u/Kapoteeni)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2022, 7:18am UTC](https://forums.funcom.com/t/thrall-nerf-question/209199/5 "2022-10-06T07:18:11Z")
I’d rank Lianeele among the Top-3. Those who know, know. ---
**Author:** ![Paolo1977](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/c2a13f/32.png) [@Paolo1977](https://forums.funcom.com/u/Paolo1977)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2022, 9:26am UTC](https://forums.funcom.com/t/thrall-nerf-question/209199/6 "2022-10-06T09:26:24Z")
Does the relic hunter hit harder than a berserker? ---
**Author:** ![wotannatow](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f1d935/32.png) [@wotannatow](https://forums.funcom.com/u/wotannatow)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2022, 9:30am UTC](https://forums.funcom.com/t/thrall-nerf-question/209199/7 "2022-10-06T09:30:55Z")
You want the treasure seekers, and their damage modifier is very much in par with the berserker. But treasure seekers gain about twice as many hitpoints per vitality than any other thrall out there. This makes them the very best to get. ---
**Author:** ![prologue1337](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/funcom/user_avatar/forums.funcom.com/prologue1337/32/14777_2.png) [@prologue1337](https://forums.funcom.com/u/prologue1337)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2022, 9:36am UTC](https://forums.funcom.com/t/thrall-nerf-question/209199/8 "2022-10-06T09:36:56Z")
The berserker should hit harder, but has less hit points ---
**Author:** ![Paolo1977](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/c2a13f/32.png) [@Paolo1977](https://forums.funcom.com/u/Paolo1977)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2022, 9:37am UTC](https://forums.funcom.com/t/thrall-nerf-question/209199/9 "2022-10-06T09:37:13Z")
Do relic hunter treasure seekers come in Tier 4 versions? And where are they found? ---
**Author:** ![prologue1337](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/funcom/user_avatar/forums.funcom.com/prologue1337/32/14777_2.png) [@prologue1337](https://forums.funcom.com/u/prologue1337)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2022, 9:41am UTC](https://forums.funcom.com/t/thrall-nerf-question/209199/10 "2022-10-06T09:41:18Z")
I believe they’re somewhat the same, not sure if they’re officially T4 though, but they close to equal difficulty knocking them out. You can’t tame the mini-boss. > **[Relic Hunter Treasure Seekers](https://conanexiles.fandom.com/wiki/Relic_Hunter_Treasure_Seekers)** > > This other sub-faction of the Relic Hunters is also always hostile to any player, like the Relic Hunter Slavetakers. They are strewn across smaller camps inside The Unnamed City, usually in small to medium groups of four to six enemies, consisting of... ---
**Author:** ![wotannatow](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f1d935/32.png) [@wotannatow](https://forums.funcom.com/u/wotannatow)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2022, 11:12am UTC](https://forums.funcom.com/t/thrall-nerf-question/209199/11 "2022-10-06T11:12:15Z")
Treasure Seekers are the t4 Relic Hunters. Best place to get them is the Wine Cellar dungeon - on the back of the tavern you find Conan in. But they’re also in the Unnamed City. ---
**Author:** ![Tuffman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/b782af/32.png) [@Tuffman](https://forums.funcom.com/u/Tuffman)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2022, 11:50am UTC](https://forums.funcom.com/t/thrall-nerf-question/209199/12 "2022-10-06T11:50:51Z")
Quick number crunching and just some personal experience says this is not the case. Their modifiers aren’t much different but RHTS gain about 2.5x the percent damage increase per point of strength compared to a Zerker. If you’re looking to run an authority build, especially with well-trained. Go with the Treasure Seekers. ---
**Author:** ![EduMariano](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/3d9bf3/32.png) [@EduMariano](https://forums.funcom.com/u/EduMariano)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2022, 11:54am UTC](https://forums.funcom.com/t/thrall-nerf-question/209199/13 "2022-10-06T11:54:49Z")
Do thralls still got negative perks when leveling, because with less hp and damage, taking a park with negative vitality or strength would ruin the thrall. ---
**Author:** ![Tuffman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/b782af/32.png) [@Tuffman](https://forums.funcom.com/u/Tuffman)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2022, 11:58am UTC](https://forums.funcom.com/t/thrall-nerf-question/209199/14 "2022-10-06T11:58:46Z")
Cannot 100% say they don’t, but if there are negative perks it’s a lot less common. Plus you have the ability to use potions to reroll perks. ---
**Author:** ![prologue1337](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/funcom/user_avatar/forums.funcom.com/prologue1337/32/14777_2.png) [@prologue1337](https://forums.funcom.com/u/prologue1337)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2022, 12:02pm UTC](https://forums.funcom.com/t/thrall-nerf-question/209199/15 "2022-10-06T12:02:11Z")
True I didn’t take much consideration in growth Zerkers just start with high damage multipliers, its still a little RNG in how good they will become leveling up in the end All my current berzerkers deal more damage than the Relic hunter I currently own (all level 20) but its not a major difference, however the health pool is pretty much higher with the relic hunter on top. (I train all my thralls with gruel for more str chance in growth after that I feed them Enhanced Gruel for more health regen after they take damage) ---
**Author:** ![Eniguman](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/funcom/user_avatar/forums.funcom.com/eniguman/32/98389_2.png) [@Eniguman](https://forums.funcom.com/u/Eniguman)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2022, 12:06pm UTC](https://forums.funcom.com/t/thrall-nerf-question/209199/16 "2022-10-06T12:06:54Z")
Yes you can and it ruining a thrall probably completely depends on your build I purposefully try to roll for the Angry Drunk perk which gives + 8 str and - 5 Vit on my thralls because I value str over vit and extra HP isn’t needed for the build I run I have still not lost a thrall to any boss or event since 3.0 hit even with me settling for more str and less vit ---
**Author:** ![prologue1337](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/funcom/user_avatar/forums.funcom.com/prologue1337/32/14777_2.png) [@prologue1337](https://forums.funcom.com/u/prologue1337)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2022, 12:13pm UTC](https://forums.funcom.com/t/thrall-nerf-question/209199/17 "2022-10-06T12:13:00Z")
> [@Eniguman](#): > > I have still not lost a thrall to any boss or event since 3.0 hit even with me settling for more str and less vit Not even by Thag? These annoying add spawns stagger locked my thrall and she died eventually (it was close to not die though, but I couldn’t get the last hit on before my thrall died Dalinsia max lvl 1700+ armour). ---
**Author:** ![Eniguman](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/funcom/user_avatar/forums.funcom.com/eniguman/32/98389_2.png) [@Eniguman](https://forums.funcom.com/u/Eniguman)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2022, 12:14pm UTC](https://forums.funcom.com/t/thrall-nerf-question/209199/18 "2022-10-06T12:14:30Z")
He died too fast for it to be a problem Only boss that came close was arena champion and she would have killed both if I wasn’t helping them keep her staggered ---
**Author:** ![JJDancer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/funcom/user_avatar/forums.funcom.com/jjdancer/32/85091_2.png) [@JJDancer](https://forums.funcom.com/u/JJDancer)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2022, 12:19pm UTC](https://forums.funcom.com/t/thrall-nerf-question/209199/19 "2022-10-06T12:19:46Z")
Just use the new potion to reroll the perks, I have gotten some amazing rerolls on my thralls. ---
**Author:** ![prologue1337](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/funcom/user_avatar/forums.funcom.com/prologue1337/32/14777_2.png) [@prologue1337](https://forums.funcom.com/u/prologue1337)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2022, 12:20pm UTC](https://forums.funcom.com/t/thrall-nerf-question/209199/20 "2022-10-06T12:20:38Z")
Ah yes, I was kinda slow on te kill and unlucky Any advice for killing him quick enough? (I used the gladius short sword 95 dmg 31% pen full agility build with medium agility damage armour) [Next page](https://forums.funcom.com/t/thrall-nerf-question/209199.md?page=2)