Time to fix the last one shot mechanic?

stelagel · 2023-01-16T22:05:50.859Z

SirDaveWolf:

you can carry and run with no limits.

Once i believed that if full encumbrance stopped from this game i’ll quit. Now i feel the exact opposite . The game is too easy now, the inventory of the player can loose at least the half capacity. I know it’s not enough, but it’s a start.
About the elephant tower… I don’t care, all the times i killed someone like this on the past was clan mates . I was constantly over encumbered in the base trying to organize the chests. Somebody had to do it!
If Funcom wishes, they can bring it to pve, so i will be able to kill npcs this way, and remove it from pvp.

prologue1337:

Lol, it never ends, abusive gameplay in PvP

Imagine this game with minors… Omg . I am pretty sure most of the players that use this method are 12 year old boys… But i can’t prove it and i don’t want actually, no way!

erjoh · 2023-01-16T22:16:05.568Z

Just remove the ability to double jump while over-encumbered…problem solved. You have to actually fall or drop on a person and therefore a bit harder to do.

CodeMage · 2023-01-17T04:25:34.777Z

Taemien:

Beast of Burden simply needs to be replaced with +150 carrying capacity.

No, it doesn’t. There are so many ways to fix this without crippling a useful and valid perk that many of us enjoy in PVE just because it’s being abused for cheap kills in PVP.

SirDaveWolf:

Yes. I never liked that you can carry and run with no limits.

The limits are there. The stamina regen is awfully slow, you can’t ride, and your inventory slots are limited to 200 max (less than a full vault).

Stop asking for the nerf sledgehammer when a scalpel will do.

Capt_insano0 · 2023-01-17T04:38:44.015Z

erjoh:

Just remove the ability to double jump while over-encumbered…problem solved.

That would solve the issue

Xevyr · 2023-01-17T04:57:56.441Z

No…
All of the above are simply way too destructive for absolutely no good reason…

It’s really simple and I suggested this before

Keep everything as it is, but simply require the player to fall at least from 2 foundations high in order to do the one-shot damage… that’s all…

You might have some base defenders from higher ground jumping on you… and kudos to them for that… but it won’t be a “meta” and double-jump won’t mess with it either.

stelagel · 2023-01-17T05:55:04.095Z

Xevyr:

All of the above are simply way too destructive for absolutely no good reason…

The usual…

Xevyr:

Keep everything as it is, but simply require the player to fall at least from 2 foundations high in order to do the one-shot damage… that’s all…

And replace the tower of the elephant trophy for something better!

Taemien · 2023-01-17T06:16:59.939Z

CodeMage:

No, it doesn’t. There are so many ways to fix this without crippling a useful and valid perk that many of us enjoy in PVE just because it’s being abused for cheap kills in PVP.

Beast of Burden causes PVE issues as well, even more so than PVP. Its time for it to go.

Xevyr · 2023-01-17T06:18:59.915Z

I mean, it just arrived I don’t think it’s going anywhere.
If the devs wanted to get rid of it, they would’ve had the perfect opportunity with the attribute revamp, and by perfect, I mean it doesn’t ever get any more perfect than that, since they could’ve even gotten away with it because of the distraction window Age of Sorcery granted them

CodeMage · 2023-01-17T06:35:24.275Z

Taemien:

Beast of Burden causes PVE issues as well, even more so than PVP.

[citation needed]

Taemien · 2023-01-17T06:51:14.973Z

If you want to discuss the PVE aspects of this, make a thread about it. Don’t get another thread locked up for going off topic.

CodeMage · 2023-01-17T06:56:12.631Z

Hey, I’m not the one who’s claiming “it has to go” because of “PVE problems”. If you want to discuss it in a different topic because you don’t want to derail this one, that’s fine with me – make a topic and link it. The onus on putting some substance behind your claim is on you, not on me.

helium3 · 2023-01-17T08:25:33.671Z

I think he means it’s contributing to overly large builds because it becomes much easier to farm a lot of resources.

SirDaveWolf · 2023-01-17T08:52:02.989Z

Xevyr:

Keep everything as it is, but simply require the player to fall at least from 2 foundations high in order to do the one-shot damage… that’s all…

Another valid solution

SirDaveWolf · 2023-01-17T08:56:53.276Z

Just in general again. Look how ridiculous this mechanic is with lagg:

Fun fact: the white guy was the one overencumbered and had no double jump

rolee9309 · 2023-01-17T09:21:12.365Z

Purely from a single player point of view, but I always found the double jump not fitting in conan.
I honestly would just replace it with something else.
It’s cartoonish, childish.

And while over-encumbered, now you swim VERY slow. WHY??? Water buoyancy makes you lighter! But climbing speed remained the same. WTF? It is easier to pull up 100kgs of stuff on a mountainside/wall, than swimming? The exact opposite is the logical, true one, not this. Yeah, I understand, jumping in water is an easier evasion, but this is unbalanced. Make the swim a bit slower, but the climb much much slower. Or make the character unable to climb over-encumbered (without the last perk at least).

Wielder · 2023-01-17T11:44:45.471Z

Yes - easy to solve issue but im not too optimistic knowing how funcom ‘fixes’ things and how much time it takes unfortunatelly.

darthphysicist · 2023-01-17T12:07:01.071Z

I like your earlier suggestion precisely because it is pvp focused and only impacts pvp; it is also a non intrusive method to address what even I consider a novelty move. Naked people jumping on heads to kill people is admittedly silly for Conan as a brand to have any regular part in the pvp experience. Even if it wasn’t that common, its an attack style that isnt on brand… maybe it would be an easier sell to just disable goomba stomp with a toggle for pvp servers and then if privates or single player want it, they could still do it.

Wielder · 2023-01-17T12:10:09.487Z

Any fix that wouldn’t hut pve is fine. Its not hard to code, hope funcom fixes it in couple months. Yikes.

darthphysicist · 2023-01-17T12:13:04.380Z

Well, its not a “bug” so the best you can probably expect is for it to get slotted into the next major update; probably won’t make it into a patch if I were a betting man. I do think though that this is a sound suggestion.

Wielder · 2023-01-17T12:15:10.870Z

I personally think its in exploit teritory but it does not matte what nameplate we put on it - even important bugs are not fixed straight away unfortunatelly.