Unnamed thrall on modded server - Servercrash

Hi everyone,

I started a new server with a larger selection of mods than my previous one.

Unfortunately, I’m now running into a problem: an unnamed fighter keeps spawning.

Presumably a tanner or armorer.

I remember this happening on another server I played on.

The problem with this Thrall is:

When I knock him unconscious, it says “loading data” or something similar, and when I put him in the Wheel of Pain, the server crashes.

Compared to the first server, which didn’t have this problem, I’ve installed additional cosmetic, armor, and building mods.

Besides AoC and eewa from before, I’ve also added VAM/WoV and ODO (Orero Dungeon Overhaul).

And also Al-Merayah, the castle from before.

Interesting.

This is very similar to the problem Official servers were dealing with where a previously logged out player character would appear. They also had the default character model with white hair but had 200HP and it wouldn’t say “fighter”. FC had to treat the servers to get rid if them - assuming they used a script. If players tried to kill them on PVP or PVE-C, it would crash the server. On all including PVE, if you drew a purge or enemies and they would attack, it would also crash the server.

You say its a new server but have you had players on that stopped playing and their bodies were removed from the world?

Have you tried removing all mods (plus in folders) and see if he still spawns? Or remove the mods 1 by 1 or in batches to determine if it is a mod(s) causing this?

In server settings, “logged out characters remain in world” is false.

I’d probably have to deactivate one mod at a time and see which one is causing this error.

An incorrect mod order could also cause this error, but I followed the instructions for the more extensive mods.

I would do the test in single-player mode; the spawn of this nameless NPC is unfortunately random.

Presumably a tanner, armorer, or carpenter - the multispawn spots.

When the players are logged out, they also look like the nameless Thrall.

I’m not even sure if it’s always been like that. I saw it in the pippi admin menu.

Super weird. I don’t recall being on any server with Pippi in the past but I can’t imagine this is normal.

My thoughts are that there is a conflict somewhere.

Of note I was on an Official Siptah server yesterday and found some logged out bodies, they had their normal character models.

You probably have some mod that contain some old files saved that are now outdated so the game gives you broken results as it expects something else. It will most likely be something not updated for a few years now.

Probably easier if you either post your full modlist / log (the full log contains the modlist too) or just simply troubleshoot it.

You don’t have to try every mod one by one, there are quick troubleshooting methods to deal with exactly this, like the 50/50 method. Remember to do these in single player mode with the database copied whenever the issue can be reproduced there as it’s much easier.
Also, never work with your live database, make a backup and restore it after you’re done troubleshooting (for example if you remove a building mod temporarily, buildings using that will collapse and similar unintended things might affect your save)
Here, I’ll copy paste that method from discord:

How to troubleshoot your mods

  1. make a backup copy of, and then open your ConanSandbox\Mods\modlist.txt in notepad
  2. select about half of the lines and cut + paste into an empty notepad then save the modlist.txt but leave open
  3. load the game
    • if it’s still broken, then close it and cut half the modlist again and paste into the temporary notepad window
    • if it’s no longer broken all the mods on your list are fine, so just temporarily wipe them from your modlist (you have a backup) and place back only half of what you previously removed and test again with those.
  4. repeat that until you narrowed it down to just one mod, it only takes a couple of tries since you’re halving the list every time
  5. restore your backup copy of the modlist.txt and remove that one mod / notify the mod author etc.

I added these additional mods compared to the previous server.
Maybe someone recognizes a suspect?^^

The problem is simply that this thrall isn’t guaranteed to spawn.
This makes it difficult to test whether it’s actually fixed.

I have only listed the mods that were added to the mod selection of the previous server:

2597952237/Ancient_Armor.pak
2914309509/Akihabara_design.pak
3318793069/Akihabara_Design_Silmarillion.pak
3309160280/Akihabara_Design_Sora.pak
3310298622/Akihabara_Design_Boutique.pak
2982469779/JCF.pak
3362177073/JCF2.pak
3326354818/immersivearmor.pak

3560995766/Grimoire.pak

1815573406/Shanis-Stuff.pak
3425757676/WickedWebsofZamora.pak

3350188592/Valkyrian_Lands.pak
933782986/ExilesExtreme.pak

2365946321/AmunetDecoCollector.pak

1411872074/Ancient_Architect.pak

2974559563/Oreros_Dungeon_Overhauls.pak
3452606731/AlMerayah_Reborn.pak

JCF and JCF2 are Juvilia’s Crabby Fashion.
Ancient Architect, also known as Lemurian Architect, is so far down because it needs to be placed under the stacking mod.
AlMerayah_reborn is the old castle that can be besieged and stormed.

And currently, I’ve moved Orero and AlMerayah down as far as possible for testing purposes, but unfortunately that didn’t help either.

So, in the Pippi admin menu, did you see the logged-out characters?

And were they displayed normally with their usual model and equipment?

Hi Snu! Unfortunately I don’t have any experience with Pippi, I wish I could help but alas.

It’s been years since I’ve had a private server of my own and I didn’t use mods. The private servers I’ve visited since, if they did have Pippi, I wouldn’t have seen the admin view of course as simply a player.

As you know @Xevyr posted a detailed troubleshooting comment for you, I hope it was helpful as its thorough.

If you want to go that route, then post a full server log, selectively listing a few doesn’t mean it’s done by those, especially since you yourself have said that the issue doesn’t always happen and it’s just incidental - could’ve been something that was happening before and you didn’t notice, or simply one of the mods you used back then got broken by a more recent game update etc.

I temporarily had no remote access due to a move.

Now I can send the log.

ConanSandbox.txt (5.4 MB)

While I can’t be certain as you have several large mods that alter the game in major ways, but if I had to guess based on that, I would say it’s either Ancient Armory or Ancient Architecture.

Both of those mods seem to touch vanilla crafter thralls in some ways, the armory one might be more likely as that one hasn’t been updated for a year.