# Whay did funcom nerf the Crafther thralls? **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [June 16, 2021, 8:15am UTC](https://forums.funcom.com/t/whay-did-funcom-nerf-the-crafther-thralls/170954 "2021-06-16T08:15:13Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Masmassu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/7feea3/32.png) [@Masmassu](https://forums.funcom.com/u/Masmassu)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2021, 8:15am UTC](https://forums.funcom.com/t/whay-did-funcom-nerf-the-crafther-thralls/170954/1 "2021-06-16T08:15:13Z")
> [@The word \*\*\*\*\* cannot be used](https://forums.funcom.com/t/the-word-cannot-be-used/168173/29): > > Up until recently, we (on the PS4) had full nudity, and had done for years (I can of course only speak from the UK perspective) - I got the sense that the only reason why it has been removed was due to an actual bug. As for the crafting thralls, partial nudity was removed deliberately, but not (as I understand it) due to ‘prudish’ reasons , but simply because part of the community asked for it. The reasoning being that when ‘collecting’ a thrall in the first place it was sometimes difficult to… The topic have bean up several time but the staff keep avoiding the topic. Anyone know what they destryes somthing most player liked? ---
**Author:** ![Lucidique](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/funcom/user_avatar/forums.funcom.com/lucidique/32/90010_2.png) [@Lucidique](https://forums.funcom.com/u/Lucidique)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2021, 9:58am UTC](https://forums.funcom.com/t/whay-did-funcom-nerf-the-crafther-thralls/170954/2 "2021-06-16T09:58:29Z")
They’re still there, you just need to know which factions to target. ---
**Author:** ![Masmassu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/7feea3/32.png) [@Masmassu](https://forums.funcom.com/u/Masmassu)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2021, 10:32am UTC](https://forums.funcom.com/t/whay-did-funcom-nerf-the-crafther-thralls/170954/3 "2021-06-16T10:32:00Z")
No they al have the same boring lv 1 start cloth armor whot no spec crafting skills. ![Beri](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/funcom/original/3X/b/1/b1b8bb0500000292220fa5e1b2d9ba362c2ecf86.jpeg) ![beri2](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/funcom/original/3X/9/d/9d013a954167897d33b385f5caf0fc974c1a3824.jpeg) for exampe! Now them all lock exatly the same whit no spec skills. ---
**Author:** ![Lucidique](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/funcom/user_avatar/forums.funcom.com/lucidique/32/90010_2.png) [@Lucidique](https://forums.funcom.com/u/Lucidique)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2021, 10:52am UTC](https://forums.funcom.com/t/whay-did-funcom-nerf-the-crafther-thralls/170954/4 "2021-06-16T10:52:06Z")
They’re not nerfed, certain factions have crafters that’ll wear crafter gear, other factions have crafters that’ll wear their faction gear - fur armour, vanir helmets, warpaint etc. Usually, it’s a mix of the two. Old original T4 crafters like Beri with no shirt got the specialization upgrades, so even though that version of her has been grandfathered, she’s still viable. T3 and lower crafters do not have a speciality. ---
**Author:** ![Masmassu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/7feea3/32.png) [@Masmassu](https://forums.funcom.com/u/Masmassu)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2021, 11:04am UTC](https://forums.funcom.com/t/whay-did-funcom-nerf-the-crafther-thralls/170954/5 "2021-06-16T11:04:56Z")
They are totaly nerfed. to day they are almost useless all of them and if you need them you only need one of them. Yea its an microscopic chanse they have some of ther culture armor on but so so rare theyalmost dont exist and not spawn inte same goos variation is was b4. Yes Beri still spawn but lock exactly the same as the rest of them. And the nerf on t1-3 to, b4 it was a point to go lock for them just to find a good locking one to plase for decorations and so. ---
**Author:** ![Lucidique](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/funcom/user_avatar/forums.funcom.com/lucidique/32/90010_2.png) [@Lucidique](https://forums.funcom.com/u/Lucidique)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2021, 11:09am UTC](https://forums.funcom.com/t/whay-did-funcom-nerf-the-crafther-thralls/170954/6 "2021-06-16T11:09:01Z")
Try targetting Accursed or Æsir. Faction clothing everywhere on crafters. ---
**Author:** ![Masmassu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/7feea3/32.png) [@Masmassu](https://forums.funcom.com/u/Masmassu)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2021, 11:12am UTC](https://forums.funcom.com/t/whay-did-funcom-nerf-the-crafther-thralls/170954/7 "2021-06-16T11:12:34Z")
What Accursed or Æsir, dont understand? A big problem is that crafters are mostly for decorativ purpus but as they lock to day they are not decorativ at all. ---
**Author:** ![Lucidique](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/funcom/user_avatar/forums.funcom.com/lucidique/32/90010_2.png) [@Lucidique](https://forums.funcom.com/u/Lucidique)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2021, 11:16am UTC](https://forums.funcom.com/t/whay-did-funcom-nerf-the-crafther-thralls/170954/8 "2021-06-16T11:16:05Z")
Accursed faction is a buffed up Lost Tribe added with 2.3, Æsir are buffed up Heirs of the North, again added with 2.3 ---
**Author:** ![Masmassu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/7feea3/32.png) [@Masmassu](https://forums.funcom.com/u/Masmassu)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2021, 11:25am UTC](https://forums.funcom.com/t/whay-did-funcom-nerf-the-crafther-thralls/170954/9 "2021-06-16T11:25:02Z")
You have a link on that or what more variation have they added? Have bean farming for my altars several dayes now an have not sean any change. ---
**Author:** ![Narelle](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/funcom/user_avatar/forums.funcom.com/narelle/32/45919_2.png) [@Narelle](https://forums.funcom.com/u/Narelle)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2021, 11:38am UTC](https://forums.funcom.com/t/whay-did-funcom-nerf-the-crafther-thralls/170954/10 "2021-06-16T11:38:57Z")
You still damage carpenter, durability carpenter has its uses too, damage bs, durability bs, all 3 armorers, the rest are mostly optional and T3 would do. ---
**Author:** ![Lucidique](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/funcom/user_avatar/forums.funcom.com/lucidique/32/90010_2.png) [@Lucidique](https://forums.funcom.com/u/Lucidique)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2021, 11:43am UTC](https://forums.funcom.com/t/whay-did-funcom-nerf-the-crafther-thralls/170954/11 "2021-06-16T11:43:18Z")
Conan wiki. The 2 factions are from Isle of Siptah, so you’ll find them there. Or if you have admin access, they can be spawned in if you’re impatient (does not require the expansion). ---
**Author:** ![Masmassu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/7feea3/32.png) [@Masmassu](https://forums.funcom.com/u/Masmassu)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2021, 11:44am UTC](https://forums.funcom.com/t/whay-did-funcom-nerf-the-crafther-thralls/170954/12 "2021-06-16T11:44:52Z")
A yes but thats a nerf on the crafters, all power is on the stations and you only need one iof the crafters and no need to colect them. No point colecting them, not for crafting and not for decoration. ---
**Author:** ![Masmassu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/7feea3/32.png) [@Masmassu](https://forums.funcom.com/u/Masmassu)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2021, 11:47am UTC](https://forums.funcom.com/t/whay-did-funcom-nerf-the-crafther-thralls/170954/13 "2021-06-16T11:47:12Z")
Working mostly in hte old world and on an official server so cant use mods to fix the problem. ---
**Author:** ![Narelle](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/funcom/user_avatar/forums.funcom.com/narelle/32/45919_2.png) [@Narelle](https://forums.funcom.com/u/Narelle)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2021, 11:49am UTC](https://forums.funcom.com/t/whay-did-funcom-nerf-the-crafther-thralls/170954/14 "2021-06-16T11:49:16Z")
With the old system there was no point either for me because I own all DLCs. Now I actually need to farm more to find the right specialization. ---
**Author:** ![Lucidique](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/funcom/user_avatar/forums.funcom.com/lucidique/32/90010_2.png) [@Lucidique](https://forums.funcom.com/u/Lucidique)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2021, 11:52am UTC](https://forums.funcom.com/t/whay-did-funcom-nerf-the-crafther-thralls/170954/15 "2021-06-16T11:52:54Z")
If you want to min / max, you’ll still need to collect crafters like pokemon. ---
**Author:** ![Masmassu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/7feea3/32.png) [@Masmassu](https://forums.funcom.com/u/Masmassu)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2021, 11:55am UTC](https://forums.funcom.com/t/whay-did-funcom-nerf-the-crafther-thralls/170954/16 "2021-06-16T11:55:20Z")
Unless you liked to have the other armors to. ---
**Author:** ![Masmassu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/7feea3/32.png) [@Masmassu](https://forums.funcom.com/u/Masmassu)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2021, 11:57am UTC](https://forums.funcom.com/t/whay-did-funcom-nerf-the-crafther-thralls/170954/17 "2021-06-16T11:57:05Z")
Whay they all lock the same? And on 99% we only se ther back on to. No craft or decoration purpus. ---
**Author:** ![Masmassu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/7feea3/32.png) [@Masmassu](https://forums.funcom.com/u/Masmassu)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2021, 8:53pm UTC](https://forums.funcom.com/t/whay-did-funcom-nerf-the-crafther-thralls/170954/18 "2021-06-16T20:53:03Z")
But is it more variartion on the trall armors on the sipta server? If so i just hope they can implent it on the old servers to… ---
**Author:** ![Sir.Henry.Vale](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/funcom/user_avatar/forums.funcom.com/sir.henry.vale/32/75930_2.png) [@Sir.Henry.Vale](https://forums.funcom.com/u/Sir.Henry.Vale)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2021, 9:02pm UTC](https://forums.funcom.com/t/whay-did-funcom-nerf-the-crafther-thralls/170954/19 "2021-06-16T21:02:17Z")
I think people complained that it was a pain to get a certain named crafter (Armorer) to craft a certain set. So to make it easier, they relaxed the concept you had to collect all the various crafters to make various different sets. You will still need to get different crafters buff types (3) for armor smiths, blacksmiths and priests but you do not need one for each race anymore. ---
**Author:** ![biggcane55](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/funcom/user_avatar/forums.funcom.com/biggcane55/32/82620_2.png) [@biggcane55](https://forums.funcom.com/u/biggcane55)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2021, 9:21pm UTC](https://forums.funcom.com/t/whay-did-funcom-nerf-the-crafther-thralls/170954/20 "2021-06-16T21:21:20Z")
Yep, this. [Next page](https://forums.funcom.com/t/whay-did-funcom-nerf-the-crafther-thralls/170954.md?page=2)