How do feel about thrall damage buffs? Do you use potions/food? I didnt use any in the testing, but I think I might if I wasnt running authority.
Ok, it’s tested then, @forkyeah . Well, it’s not depressing. Too much baby sitting for me, though, but they do manage.
Did you experience any problems with performance or the tests were made without the game having funky moments? This is important, because that’s when thralls usually die. When everything works well, as I once told you, even a 1500 hp thrall is able to deal with most content.
Hate using them. Too much micromanagement, @forkyeah . But if needed I’ll make some batches. They are part of the game and it’s legitimate that they expect us to use them . But i would only find that acceptable against the hardest content, not to farm thralls on the mounds, for instance.
One of the things that worries me is capturing thralls during the purge. You see, low hp thralls with truncheons simply don’t manage. They die. So there’s a lot of steategy involved in placing their stances so that you can capture them yourself without too many losses. The lower the hp, the harder it gets and with these new purges… I don’t know. I hope they tested it thoroughly.
So while I dont think food/potion for thralls or you would be necessary for ANY other content on the map it might have been necessary for arena champion. I did run +follower damage food/potion on myself and strength food/potion on the berserker. This is a no authority build wearing skelos cultist armor.
edit: everything else in the dungeon was cake, took 15-20 seconds more per boss, maybe took 20-25% damage.
First of all, thank you @forkyeah .
Your thrall was very, very lucky to have survived, but it’s no worse than AoS.
There’s something about your tests though that doesn’t confer them ecological validity. You clearly know your game and it seems the conditions weren’t adverse. That’s not something I am blaming you for, mind you.
But it’s hard to extrapolate for most players the results you had. Very hard.
People panic, the game performs poorly, etc.
You see, some similar tests were made before AoS and I ended up rather optmistic after playing myself. But then I heard quite a significant number of people complaining legitimately. Not all players are skilled and they are those who need thralls the most. Even skilled players are powerless when the game acts up. So I lost some thralls that should have managed and they didn’t exactly because their hp was too low to protect them from those mishaps.
Anyway, your tests were very cool and give me some hope, although my general attitude is still doubtful. It has nothing to do with you generous testing, but with the direction the game is taking. It’s becoming increasingly grindy. I don’t like that a lot. I like a lot of adventure with a little grind, not a lot of grind with little adventure.
I guess I’ll wait and find out.
Again, thanks for the tests. They were very much appreciated.
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I think its a great decision makes the game easier to get into and thralls less of a grind.
Prior on PVP servers (not that I have bothered with thrall grabbing post age of sorcery cause coins) I would have to grab at minimum a T3 task master before grabbing anything else, because I need to be able to break a thrall outside of raid time or someone will just crack my wheel.
Made it really difficult to start out, Now its just gonna be get your thrall, break it and your good to go, no more time gating.
No it’s not… it has a higher damage multiplier than the arena champion in AoW… higher than a berserker… higher than most anything else in the game…
That’s what I tried telling you the other day, but you seemed obsessed with your “strong thrall fetish” and trying to balance thrall HP around official server bugs instead of the actual game…
There you go… you can switch to Age of War stats on the bottom…
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Thanks @Xevyr .
I’ll be sure to look at it carefully when FUNCOM fixes the game for PS5. I had such a crappy session today that I decided to put the game aside until performance is significantly improved.
Not even my thrall fetish 
is enough for me to put up with this crap.
Thanks a lot for extracting and making available all that data. Those are important numbers to know and I’m very curious about them. Let’s hope I get to make good use of it still. I already made a copy. 
FINALLY… this is what I tried getting through to you… 
And I saw your thread and I agree, even gave it a like. But that’s literally it… you’re playing it on the worst platform on the worst servers (or SP, since on that console it doesn’t matter as it’s not optimized… so SP will run just as trash)…
It’s just not representative of how this game actually is…
That’s what I was trying to get through to you… that we should ask them to fix the actual bugs… and not throw unrelated band-aids on it… like pump up thrall HP to make them survive bugs…
Who wants to play with huge HP thralls that are useless and miss every hit anyway? 
can’t be very enjoyable.
You sure? 
The force is strong within this one!!! 
You can just bookmark the link, I update it every chapter.
But anyway… these are the highlights:
Funcom totally messed them up it’s like they threw all the thralls in one of those bingo ball machines… and scrambled them up…
Cannibals are OP with melee multipliers over 3…
Berserkers got theirs doubled… so now they’re the all-arounder thralls 2.24 but better HP
RHTS lagging behind…
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@Xevyr you didn’t need to get that through, though. Why do you think I told you a player with much less HP than a thrall makes for a much better companion? Thralls are dumb, or, more precisely, act dumb especially because of the poor performance of the game.
They could have much lower hp if they acted half as good as a player (one who knows what he is doing).
I had two thralls with me today and you can’t imagine how poorly they were performing.
Nothing on my console changed. No new instals, had the cache cleaned, the ssd is fine. I was playing for about half an hour. But it was terrible in many aspects. Why? I have no clue. But I didn’t have it like this since I don’t even know when. I got fed up. They need to get their act together.
I did, because the part you were not understanding is that what YOU are playing is not in any way representative of Conan Exiles 
You’re literally playing something else… it’s not even comparable…
And yes ofc there are bugs that affect everyone, and it’s far from perfect, but the big ones that you mentioned above are exclusive to when the game doesn’t have enough hardware power to run on and is starved…
Like… literally none of that is happening when the system isn’t resource starved… thralls don’t randomly attack bushes instead of enemies… they follow instructions perfectly… etc.
They said they would improve that with Age of War, so the AI isn’t this sensitive to performance drops… so hopefully they will improve it…
So that was my point in that argument… That turning the game into Pokemon again like @CodeMage said… is NOT the solution we should be asking for this particular problem… Especially when the problem is only present on certain platforms or under certain conditions…
There shouldn’t be some blanked HP increase just to address that, instead they should fix the bugs so the game runs smoothly for everyone so that this is not needed…
That’s all I was trying to say.
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Yep the greater wheel isn’t all that anymore…just like the large well.
While I can see plusses and minuses on either side of the thrall issue that really doesn’t phase how I play, there is something that I see as a bit larger.
The Gibbet will be OP. You can have a thrall breaker taking up one cubic space per processing. Sure you have to add the food to each but still. That is a huge bonus in PVP as I can have thralls coming and going out with such a minimal footprint that no one is going to notice it. Mix it with the purple lotus orbs as the ease of knocking them out, that is going to be huge amounts of thralls.
this explains why he gave me incredible blows when I tried to capture him and especially that once I leveled him up a bit he made havoc among the enemies despite his minimal strength
Either it’s a bug or Thurga is the new king of glass cannons.
otherwise I see that bersekers are still well balanced as heavy infantry to defend bases
but considering the damage they cause in the current version it will be quite interesting to try to capture them in AoW
I guess HA will put a player without epic armor down in one hit.
Not really. Before with yhralls never eblven considered it. Now it may be an option. And i have played on beta, did not use it and had level 10 vapnir deleting bosses with ease. Still used thebgoodnole mace because ofbthe combo speed with sunder.
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@Xevyr this is utterly depressing to hear.
You see, I been thinking about changing back to pc, but I’m so out of the loop I don’t even know what to buy. I know I’ll get screwed because I don’t have the technical knowledge to build a good rig myself and I’ll probably end up paying too much for what I’ll be getting.
I used to play in a toshiba qosmio, at the time a very good portable gaming pc. It didn’t bode well with windows 10 though. After chamging the OS, basically I ruined it. It has some personalized drivers or whatever and I could never make it run properly again. That’s when I decided to permanently move to console. No maintenance. No hassle. Just play. The downside was losing the kind of games I like the most in favor of “pew pew smash smash” arcady games. That’s what might make me go back to pc, bul I’ll have to set it up with a controller and plug it on my TV (a samsung flagship able of 4k/120hz, vrr, allm, etc). But I’ve been avoiding it due to lazzyness. Of course I have a guy to help me, but even that has been making me pause. I also know I’ll abuse mods. I always do. More troubles…
So, I remain undecided.
The fact is that this game is available for ps5, and FUNCOM needs to respect its costumers. We pay dearly for everything ps5 related, games and online play included. So I hope they focus on that a bit, because the state of the game is miserable at this point.
This 
If you want to get a good pc, then asking for help from some IT person is usually a good way to go about it.
Depending on their skill level you can either just buy parts and assemble it with them properly, or a good option would be these nowdays mainstream computer shops that have a website where you can configure things and they’ll assemble it in a professional manner. (the types where you can pick the case and even the last tiny fan )
I agree! It’s really sad to see what’s going on. Up to now we could make excuses that it’s the PS4 only and it’s a decade old… and that’s true… but the current version of the game is running like trash on the PS5 too… Whatever they improved in that “performance patch” a while back was immediately undone… and then some more… in the update directly after that.
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