Why I HATE Siptah

Xevyr · 2022-10-22T09:00:16.112Z

I haven’t played Siptah so I don’t know if this is related
However I noticed a bug on EL which I’m pretty sure applies to the game in general… in that the time of day matters… when it shouldn’t.
So if you go into a dungeon while it’s still slightly dark outside and not midday… the dungeon will be much much darker inside…
Annoyed the hell out of me in warmakers So maybe you’re experiencing that on top of it already being dark.

Kikigirl · 2022-10-22T14:49:57.054Z

Lighting has always been an issue since launch of Siptah. It’s like they cranked the settings, everything is so much more bright when it is bright but dark where there are shadows or night time. It doesn’t matter how much you tweak settings in or out of game. They’ve never seemed to be able to get it right.

Winthor · 2022-10-22T15:23:43.668Z

I am more annoyed with the heavy fogs in exiled lands, especially in the dschungel.

nitecat · 2022-10-22T15:32:44.707Z

Go into settings and lighten your game
It worked for me. Perhaps it will work for you

arktara · 2022-10-22T15:44:41.939Z

When Siptah came out its lighting was much better. There was a patch with big lighting changes for both EL and Siptah. That patch generally improved EL (jungle is still mind-boggling glaring trash) and wrecked Siptah. It’s clear that with so many different screens and different preferences the game needs to offer a lot more client-side configurability for lighting because the one-size-fits-all solution has had a lot of people pissed off since day 1.

Xevyr · 2022-10-22T15:57:25.885Z

well, if you’re on PC then unreal offers a lot of settings to tweak, just not all of them available through the CE settings.
Can take a look at this for example:

Some cool graphics ini tweaks I stumbled upon (PC) Players Helping Players

So, the other day I was looking at the steam community page for CE. Was looking for something totally different, but a guide shows up by Icebreaker about tweaking certain UE variables through the engine.ini to make your game look better.
Boring Intro
Now, I usually don’t bother with this type of stuff as in general most games have their settings profile and hey, if the developers are happy with it, who am I to disagree, if it ain’t broke don’t fix it, right? (that’s not to say I don’t mod Skyr…

sestus2009 · 2022-10-22T17:56:08.362Z

As @nitecat mentioned tweak your gamma settings easy to do and helps a lot have done it in more than one game. @Wolfkyn

Pugilist · 2022-10-22T18:05:15.971Z

Wolfkyn:

The lighting outside is horrible, shadows are way too dark.

The Exiled Lands Jungle at deep dusk and High Noon on Siptah are equivalently lighted, unless you are on the beach.

When Siptah launched, it was much better lit, then people complained and complained and complained and they changed it and, very shortly after, I stopped playing on Siptah.

One option is to adjust your in game gamma to max. Just remember to adjust it back to “2” for Exiled Lands.

Wolfkyn · 2022-10-22T18:51:43.727Z

Xevyr:

So if you go into a dungeon while it’s still slightly dark outside and not midday… the dungeon will be much much darker inside…

It was day light when I went in. I’ve run plenty of dungeons and never noticed this issue. But I play SP and have my night sped up a lot, so good chance I wouldn’t notice it.

Winthor:

I am more annoyed with the heavy fogs in exiled lands, especially in the dschungel.

I’ve never built in the jungle, but I’ve been there quite a bit for recipes and dungeons. Doesn’t seem nearly as bad to me,

nitecat:

Go into settings and lighten your game

I did eventually turn my gamma all the way up. It helped a lot, but I just don’t think that should be necessary.

Pugilist:

The Exiled Lands Jungle at deep dusk and High Noon on Siptah are equivalently lighted, unless you are on the beach.

I have to say I don’t have near as much issue with the EL jungle as I do Siptah (except the beach at times when it is glaring, but that isn’t all the time). Siptah seems way worse in general than EL jungle to me.

Paolo1977 · 2022-10-23T11:04:21.416Z

Can you not just fiddle with your tv settings to fix the shadows and highlights?

AnaBlandiana · 2022-10-23T12:15:21.318Z

for those who hate the cataract disease simulator in Conan exile add this line to Engine.ini

\steamapps\common\Conan Exiles\ConanSandbox\Saved\Config\WindowsNoEditor → Engine.ini

[/script/engine.renderersettings]
r.Fog=0

And BTW game designer u add blur and fog u simulate aye disease not the real atmosphere no one see blur in far end and no one see fog all the time FIY u shod play other games to realize what u have done with this game all efects in this game simulate eye disease
Fog - cataract disease
Blur - Myopia, or nearsightedness
Medium HP effect - Conjunctivitis
Shadows and highlights - ( Sudden appearance of a shadow or a grey/dark area in the vision, usually starting from the peripheral (side, top or bottom of) vision, may indicate a retinal detachment and urgent attention should be sought.)

With other words this game provide a huge Eye Discomfort for allot of users

BTW when the game got out it was clear no fog no blur

prologue1337 · 2022-10-23T12:19:46.560Z

Wolfkyn:

The lighting outside is horrible

Why?

I ask why, because I like it tbh

Wolfkyn · 2022-10-23T16:06:07.971Z

To me, it seems like the shadows are way too dark. I loved the idea of the Redwood forest, but trying to build there was just so dark even during the day without the maelstrom, I couldn’t enjoy it.

prologue1337 · 2022-10-23T16:12:20.025Z

Ahh the red wood is pretty dark yeah, but that’s what I like about it
Only the rain is missing

Akomo · 2022-10-23T19:37:30.435Z

Look for the E. Whenever you are close to a clicky- E pops up

LOL! i like it this dark- rewards those who actually search the dungeon thoroughly

Wolfkyn · 2022-10-24T02:10:36.941Z

I don’t mind searching thoroughly, but when I have to go over every room 3 times to try finding one piece of dark clutter among other pieces of dark clutter, it just gets annoying.

Keeping them as they are, but in a better lit dungeon, would still require thorough searching, but would be much more tolerable.

Yup · 2022-10-24T12:16:23.218Z

Sorry this is all complete rubbish, look up atmospheric scattering, even away from cities and suburbia, atmospheric scattering is a real quantifiable thing.

Most adults these days do not have 20/20 vision, not in modern societies anyway.

But that is beside the point, game and rendering engines do not try and simulate the eye, they simulate lenses, all types and manner of lenses with all there deficiencies and attributes. Why? because we are looking at a 3d world projected onto a window/viewport, i.e. your monitor.

We have all grown up watching television, youtube, whatever on 2d screens, the majority of content which was captured with real lenses. Do you see the connection now?

Now if you’re willing to argue whether Conan’s engine does a reasonable job of simulating atmospheric scattering, lighting, weather conditions and lenses in general, now that is a discussion worth having.

Wolfkyn · 2022-10-24T20:30:42.916Z

Yup:

Now if you’re willing to argue whether Conan’s engine does a reasonable job of simulating atmospheric scattering, lighting, weather conditions and lenses in general, now that is a discussion worth having.

I’d say it does do a reasonable job atleast on EL. Much as I hate the glare on jungle beaches, it makes sense. I know I’ve come out of swimming in a lake and had that same kind of glare.

And even though I started this thread complaining about the dark vaults, darkness in underground areas is obvious (but the combination of the dark and the hard-to-find recipes is too much for my nerves).

helium3 · 2022-10-24T22:10:01.525Z

Yeah. I thought Siptah was gorgeous when it first came out but so many people complained that it was either too bright or too dark. So they made a bunch of changes and, in my opinion, wrecked it. The maelstrom used to be so erie and cool and now it’s meh.

stelagel · 2022-10-24T23:10:35.359Z

Kikigirl:

Lighting has always been an issue since launch of Siptah. It’s like they cranked the settings,

Actually no! I do remember falling in love with the night sky of Siptah playing my first days! I even remember being happy with their job because the sky was an island sky as it should be! I say this because I grow up and still live in a Greek island! My lighting problems exist with my choice on turning off quality and choose performance! When I made this choice exile lands was OK but Siptah really dark at nights! Now, after the update exile lands are dark too, pitch dark actually, but it is still because I play performance!
Another thing that makes the nights darker are the clouds and this was always this way, always! Siptah and exile lands have become more cloudy at nights , this I believe effects more complains and personally I don’t like the frequency. OK we love to slay and drag unconscious bodies, but sometimes we enjoy sunsets and full moons too. Another great reason I enjoy official servers is that we have nights, almost all the private servers eliminate the nights .
@Xevyr in exile lands, on performance mode you can see very clear on the lower cave in the silver mine, performance mode eliminates the fog and it’s crystal clear down there without light support.

I had to dig up a lot! This photo was send to @anon83039162 when I started Siptah! It had stars and bright moon

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