Ok so, quite evidently, Klael is alive and kicking; speaking of kicking, I bet I can make him cry and squirt out a few tears. Why do I need to go kill some inconceivable offspring to get a tear, when I am freaking speaking to an alive and well Giant King. The archivist said there was no one left to weep for both races; he must not get out much because there is one Giant King able to weep for a lost kingdom, or a lost limb, right outside the archives doors. What am I missing?
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If we could tell him the truth of how they ALL were manipulated into a war that destroyed their kingdom and ultimately cost the lives of everyone in the Exiled Lands those thousands of years ago, I don’t know if he would cry out in rage or weep in sorrow with the deepest, unimaginable grief.
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The Giant Kings were monsters, cultists of Set; ergo, they performed rituals that demanded unspeakable slaughter and untold carnage upon the humans. Myself, I am thinking of more practical measures he he. These monsters deserve to suffer for their tears; psychology is certainly an approach; albeit missing the scent of blood from the suffering of my kind calls for, arguably, more reciprocal measures =]
That damn staff can sure whisper.
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That accursed staff .. the gift from the Serpentman *boss in the volcano. (The Degenerate)
How odd, those who were fooled didn’t know any better.
Just came to mind. “The tears of two races” meaning their own and the humans.
Only one who is cursed to live carries that trait in the Black Keep.
We can dream though.
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Klael himself tells you their species is long lived. The Archivist himself tells you Klael might be able to tell me more; meaning he has knowledge that diametrically oposes his statement regarding there not being another Giant King to weep and combine their tears with ours; but sure, one can dream =]
Remember, the staff whispered to us as well, and fooled us too.
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Yeah, I remember what that noxious, skinny little wretch led me through and me being dumb enough to listen …
just to remove the bracelet I wear …
to end up back where I started … on the road again.
Losing the one place I had built and settled into.
Makes me wonder since I haven’t tried to find out ..
that if I went through all of that just to start over …
will that miserable wretch be back where I first found it,
or will it be gone for good since I left it behind with its original owner
who is now along with the rest of its kind ..
supposedly extinct.
But I suspect, like a bad dream ..
it will be there again ..
waiting ..
as also the Degenerate.
Then would only I need do
weep for myself
and somehow
make the warmaker also cry.
Then were it possible
travel to Siptah
and finish it.
Klael does not weep for both races.
Tyros is half-human, half-Giant-king, and weeps for his human lover, Telith.
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Interestingly the Modiphius Conan Exiles RPG Sourcebook states that Tyros is of Lemurian and Giant-King blood.
“Tyros the Deathbringer, also known as the Kinscourge, is the bastard son of the Priest King. He is a fearsome warrior of Lemurian and giant-king blood.”
Not sure the game actually mentions this somewhere other than The Priest King laid with a human woman who gave birth to his son: Tyros the Deathbringer.
Perhaps he not only shed’s tears for Telith, but also for their offspring Xalthar (not sure if Imi is just a pet name for Xalthar or another offspring, perhaps stillborn (?))
Perhaps it is also a symbolic shedding of tears for what could have been – then again, why does the sun come up? Or are the stars just pin holes in the curtain of night, who knows?
Yes I understand that clearly. The thing is, why would you go to the trouble, if you have a Giant King and a Human who would then produce the tears of both races. You don’t need a half-breed to weep when you have the both sources that produce such outcome at hand. Klael tells you that’s how the process worked, why not do it right then in there with Klael’s tears and yours? That is illogical.
Maybe it is because you need the tears of Giant-King and Lemurian ancestry?
In essence those who wrought the bracelets the way they are now as part to break the chains that bind so to speak, and our mere human tears do not carry the same potent power anymore as it once did with the Lemurians.
Even the Hyrkanian and other thinned Lemurian ancestry might not be sufficient enough and this is why the tears that Tyros weeps are the only ones that still carry this power.
Nope; at no point does Klael or the Archivist mention the tears of a Lemurian. They mixed the tears of the suffering humans as their slaves and victims of unthinkable horror, Lemurian or not. If your case has a foundation, it is not at all even hinted throughout the story. The tears of two races, as described by Klael himself, was the mixture of Giant King tears and “yours”, nothing about Lemurians. Proof of this is these tears were a common reagent for the Kings up till their decimation; I very much doubt the bracelets required a bare-foot Lemurian stepping on a Lego.
In that case I would agree with your point, that we should be able to at least theoretically come by the tears of two races – at least if we could elicit tears from Klael or whatever remains of him standing around in the UC.
Still it is said “This single tear, shed by Tyros the Deathbringer, is an object of immense power.” – hinting at some special or greater potency of his tears in particular, that is required as one part to counteract or dispel the power of the bracelet.
water & oil don’t mix but milk does it , maybe the tears of two individuals of each race can’t mix , but as a crossbreed it has ?
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Yep, I think you got that point. Yet Klael is very simplistic in this respect: the tears of both races are a simple mixture of their tears and “yours”, as if saying “anyone from your kind”.
Ok, this is how I view this:
The Lord Of the rings.
Chapter I
Gandalf: “Mr. Great Eagle, please take this small pouch and drop it in the great volcano… thank you”.
The end
Let’s take it back to the time before Tyros was born.
There were the Giant Kings and the humans.
Apparently there were Lemurians (one of which was the Witch Queen herself) ..
who incidentally (knowingly or otherwise) contributes her mask to the matrix of the bracelets.
Who then is left to contribute their tears?
I’d say it’s reasonable to suggest that any human could have contributed.
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I don’t know what the other person said, my ignore list has a short fuse, but there is nothing in the game that contradicts that statement /shrug, that is why it is so jarring.
the question is valid indeed , but is Tyros the only crossbreed that ever existed ?
Tyros may be the only offspring to have come from the mating of a human and giant king.
That makes him unique in that respect and symbolic of a union of two races (before they were torn apart by the manipulations of the Serpentmen).
As for his tears, it is said that he wept after he killed the dragon “for having killed such a noble creature”. Yet nothing else is mentioned about it. What keeps the dragon ever “undead”? Would it be only the Star of the Champion or that plus Tyros’ tears since he wept after killing it? If his tears are a factor, then that has a significant meaning.
I think there is a vague possibility that others could have been born much in the way Tyros was, but there seems to be no evidence to suggest either way. If there was, they unfortunately must have been slaughtered with everyone else during that war while Tyros is the only one who was cursed to live on.
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Do we even know if the Giant Kings can cry?
Do they have tears?
Perhaps the only way to get tears from these ancient and cruel beings is after bastardizing them with something that can cry.
Heh, no, Klael is very clear as to how it worked, his species is clearly able to weep.
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