I dunno for you, but the servers Iāve been on start to get laggy around 15 or so people. By the time 30 people are online things are ROUGH.
We as a forum have talked extensively about all these proposed lag reduction measures. But at this point, I donāt think any of that matters. I personally think the g portal servers they have official servers on are just trash.
So the thing about the ToS is, I donāt think they are perfectly fine to be honest but I think they are the best people can expect to get. I just happen to think that for the most part, people are capable of adhering to the spirit of the rules, and either choose not to deliberately, or accidentally run into them. If the focus is on preventing the āaccidentalā people getting swept up in the rules, what will happen is the deliberate ones will use that as a way out, and then effectively what youāll have is no rules at all. There has to be a line in the sand, no matter how blurry, and if you canāt really see where it is, treat it like an alligator in a swamp and stay as far away from it as possible.
The āit hasnt happened to me yetā part I understand, and this is why I rented a server from the beginning, then bought multiple servers after switching to pc from ps4. I didnt want the hassle from the outset. I didnt know if there were rules or not when I got my first copy for ps4, but I logged into an official server and saw literally 100s of ymir altars littered on noob river. I said to myself, if this is the public experience, I want no part of it. If people are going to use officials, it cant be like I saw. The only way to do that is by enforcement that may catch the ignorant or the innocent.
On ps4, a big building with lots of storage can crash you or someone else out of game. I had a glorious tower built in a river on my ps4 pro and I loved every inch of it, but my friends came down the river and it crashed both their ps4s. What did I do, even on my personally paid for ps4 gportal rental when my friends are guests? I ripped the tower I spent weeks constructing down. It was about more than me once I saw that they were impacted. I could have told them to get pros, but I didnt want to be a douche.
Unfortunately, I agree with you, I donāt think the TOS will get better. But I can be hopeful. And something needs to be done is some regard, either fine tune the TOS or find a way to achieve removal of problematic builds without an attached 2 week ban. Or heck, even an actual explanation so at the very least you donāt risk making the same mistake again. As it stands, all the aspects surrounding this topic are just sloppy and/or lazy.
So even if they never change the TOS at all, there are ways they can improve the system overall that wonāt discourage and potentially push away players/customers quite as much.
Itās always been said that black ice creates lag? I donāt know how much truth there is but since itās the easiest material to build out of and the majority of bases have it maybe itās causing some issues? Like I said just what Iāve heard and seen from private servers over the years. Just a thought really
Oh my so report every base? Our base has 4K build pieces amid still lags
Thralls are not worth the effort on official pvp. The only use is to have 5-10 inside your main base for emergency only. No health to slow to lvl and they get absolutely melted
If its causing a noticeable undesirable affect on performance, yes. Otherwise, no reason to complain about it here (reporting it here with a request for limits is no different than just reporting it to get resolution in terms of effort). People who play on officials have to take the ball on making them worth playing on. Donāt expect Funcom to start coding stuff to stop bad behavior on free services. If you see bad behavior, report it and move on.
The officials are free. They are pure expense to funcom. I would go further and assume that pvp is not the revenue generator, considering the many statements here that they must be on officials, which as I say, are an expense to Funcom. A fancy new building design, a bathset, a robe, wallsprays are not going to be purchased by the hardcore pvp crowd. Official access is not a right granted by purchase, which is why people can be suspended/banned. They are a privilege.
I understand but why does a clan of 10 pvers need more than 200 thralls?
Sure I agree with this line but we werenāt talking about bad behaviorā¦ unless you think building a base with 4K pieces and having it lag due to poor servers.
The servers are baked into the cake. I think everyone agrees it would be nice if they were better, but better costs more money. Itās not gonna happen. If its from a game induced change, we have bug reports and people should report them (consoles are a wonderful test case for the bugs because its harder to exploit/hack external performance degradation).
Complaints about official server performance have become white noise at this point. We know they dont perform well, Funcom knows this. If something could be done or had the financial backing to get it done, it would be done. There must be no business case for it. Itās really a waste of time to even complain about it at this point. Its the old adage, āit is what it isā.
Iāve just given up. I log in, I do a page of challenges, I log out. I already paid for the pass so intend to finish it, not playing for any other reason.
Why limit construction when you sell building block skins?
Why limit placeables when you sell them?
Why have the game on good servers when the point is profit?
Why have admin for those servers when, once again, the point is profit?
We are were we are, and where I am is on an island working on crafting a boat to go treasure hunting.
You said if a base is laggy and effecting performance for you then your recommendation is to report it. Thatās all Iām getting at because you spreading this kind of talk is not good for the community. The answer should not be report. Every time you report you are essentially making people leave the game. The more leave the less money is made for tencent. Try and be a part of the solution not the problem and before you come at me with paragraphs of āwhite noise ā just remember this is my opinion.
Tbh itās a waste of time to complain about the complainersā¦ they will still come in day after day to complain about terrible server performance. It is what it is
Because players are suggesting ideas so they can hope to avoid getting deleted off the map and banned from a video game.
I donāt really understand this. To me better servers would help profit and keep a healthy population.
Thatās true but I have this urge to give back what is given, so here I am. It amuses me when someone complains and then gets an opposing response and is upset about the opposition.
Iām not convinced it means less money when they leave the game due to being reported. They did buy the game already afterall and if they arent buying new content anyway, nothing is lost. Iād be more worried about the people who leave because of a laggy server due to an unreported base. There is a terms of service, and what players can do is police their own if they want the server to run as best it can with the resources it has available. If people do not like that, wellā¦ Iām sorry but the official server is a shared space and not a build how you want zone. There is the private option for that. We can rail against FC all day in here but people are defensive of those who are actually causing the problem? I reject that. If a base is lagging the server, its on the owner to do something about it, not Funcom, other than kick them off and wipe the base.
You are going around and around. The servers are crap thatās whatās causing poor performance. Not a 4K building.
How can one tell if a building is causing client lag?you are implying that anyone should report a laggy base despite their own connections issues, bad pc or old console. Thatās a bad message to send. If itās blatantly breaking the ārulesā sure report it if thatās your cup of tea but donāt report because the game is not optimized for every gaming device, internet connection.
Reports shouldnāt be made based on whether something is ālaggyā or notā¦ but whether they are breaking the ToS or notā¦
But I disagree with this notion of trying to put people off from reporting and presenting it as this ābadā thingā¦
Reporting is a feature to be usedā¦ not a feature to be avoided and itās up to Funcom to investigate the legitimacy of the report and take action based on that. Which they successfully do in the majority of the cases, but yes they mess up with them sometimesā¦
Imo. your beef however is with Funcom and your goal is to ask for a cleaner system and fewer mistakesā¦ itās not with the players and trying to discourage them from using the featureā¦ theyāre not the ones doing the banningā¦
So by all means if someone feels like a base is breaking the ToS and is being disruptive to the rest of the server then go ahead and report them. If theyāre not actually breaking the rules, they should be fine.
Also is a feature to be abused.
Here in lies the problem. No need to go any further into the rabbit hole.
Imo itās a terrible thing on pvp. It would be one thing if the rules were clear but the fact of the matter is you can be banned for just about anything with no reasoning or warning. Like I already stated if it breaks the clear rules in the tos( there are a few) then by all means report away but to report on lag is just downright silly.
You missed the part about it being ps4. They are using ps4 video.
Since weāre talking consoles here, āold consoleā doesnt apply. The game is intended to run on ps4. The investigation would be done on a ps4. If it turns up unacceptable lag, funcom will make the call. Officials are not a free for all.
The round and round is the endless threads on the topic. People dont like hearing me respond, they can quit with the repetitive complaints. We can work together see? Wanna talk general gameplay? Iām game for that too.