So this is just over whether or not it’s “obvious”? I think the stress should have been placed on the word “enough” - which is the actual obvious part and why I emphasized that word. Obviously it’s not ENOUGH if they’re seeking more. I’ll let you wordsmiths argue over when enough is actually enough. 
Sometimes I wonder if someone slipped me spice melange, because I knew you were going to go back and quote that.
Notice how I said there that the BASE GAME SALES don’t generate enough revenue, not that the DLC sales don’t generate enough revenue.
But sure, despite the fact that I presented my own speculative arguments supporting your assessment that DLCs don’t generate enough revenue either, let’s make a big deal about how I also pointed out we’re speculating and how that makes me a “wordsmith” who argues for no reason 
Oh, we’re going there now?
Yeah, @Oduda, how dare you question the ethics of a business, you SJW! A business is a business, and it’s on consumers to defend themselves individually! Asking for something on behalf of others is expecting a business not to be a business! In fact, doing anything on behalf of others is collective action, and that’s communism! You should be ashamed!
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I see no parallels at all… Just some knee-jerking ridiculousness.
I don’t even want to go there.
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Oh, come on, why not? You’re no fun anymore! 
Don’t get me wrong, I agreed with the explanation of why BP is drastically different from BLB, but the bit you quoted had me going like:
Aw, crap, now I can’t leave it at that, can I? I really like @LostBrythunian and I don’t want them to think I’m being (more of an) dick (than usual).
The shortest version: I agree about the worth of one’s time, which makes it ironic to see how many of us neglect to compare the (say) 4000+ hours spent enjoying the game against the price we paid for the game and the DLCs
EDIT: Damn it, forum software, I do want to quote the whole post I was replying to.
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I didn’t mean to be a dick either. Just how much time we all spend on the game. Obviously we all value the game more than we paid.
Oh speaking of obvious evidence…how about a company that upsets their entire revenue strategy for the past 4 years and implements a new way with little testing on if this will actually work? That level of risk should speak volumes about how little the past was providing.
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This isn’t the Battle Pass thread friends.
This one only hoped to demonstrate the difference between transaction of currency for goods and transaction of currency and labour for goods… and thus why the Bazaar to DLC comparison is Granny Smith to Fuji (Apples to Apples) while Battle Pass to DLC is Jell-O salad to Fuji (An amalgam to an Apple).
We can discuss value of time spent doing what another dictates for reward vs doing what the self desires for amusement in direct messages or in the Battle Pass thread.
Edit: Even if this one had feelings, they would not be hurt. It’s all in good spirit, obvious to this one.
Or this one is naive, either way, Hakuna Matata.
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Oh…well the cc has to be there because consoles want their cut (which Google says is 30%) so micro transactions are done within the frame work of the game but exchange between legal tender and cc is done on the console store.
BTW, proper modern use and consideration of the term “whale” instead of the antiquated paranoid way of using the term:
Yes, by all means, we should make sure to use your own hyperspecific definition that aligns with your own narrative. Any widely-adopted usage is antiquated and paranoid.
Especially if it’s some widely-adopted usage in the context of gaming industry, that’s even farther from “proper” usage!
Not to mention all the shady sites that sell them for 3-5 USD.
100%
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18 bucks for some placeables and 2 png images you probably can’t even dye in the game?
Yeah, the majority of the PC player base will stick with Free deco mods that offer hundreds of better-looking pieces.
If these prices are final I hardly will buy anything except a battlepass, making it a one-time purchase due to crom coins in battle pass.
Maybe I’ll drop few bucks for some appealing-looking armor set but that’s it.
The majority of us feel this way and soon enough the actual prices will be revealed. If maintained at the current level, time will tell if their strategy works or not.
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10$ for place-ables is fine(CE DLC Cost), If I’m paying 15-20$, it better have/be new zone.
30-40$ better add some big content.
I get that some in game store get away with batshit pricing. (COD… 12$ for a gun you own, just give it a skin, player banner and sticker for gun) is just insane for amount of work going in,
I hope prices are place holders…
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Hey guys. A new image just leaked showing another item in the bazaar. I’m told the initial price is $25.00.
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Oooo, very cool looking! Hopefully it will accept dye colors…
Instead of it dark on green, I want it white on black!
Lol that’s Oblivion
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Oh my, did I actually manage to capture someone in my cleverly disguised trap? 
Just kidding.
Anyway, for the benefit of any who may not know for whatever reason, Oblivion Horse Armor is widely credited as the original predatory microtransaction, much like how Overwatch is credited as being the progenitor of predatory lootboxes, even though they were not the first nor anywhere near the worst offender.
Basically, Bethesda decided to try out this newfangled idea called “Downloadable Content” or “DLC” for short, which are paid for by these small one time payments or “microtransactions” if you will. So they offered a horse armor DLC package that contained not one, but two distinct sets of armor for your horse in the game. The one pictured above and another set that looks a bit more like the traditional medieval armored horse. All for the low, low price of $2.50.
Yeah, you read that right. Two dollars and fifty cents for a package of two very different horse armor skins.
People went absolutely apeshit.
Why? Because this was obviously a vastly overpriced, predatory money grab that should have been included in the game from the beginning anyway. Modders could and did make better quality stuff and offer it for free. Now to be fair, there are some reports that Bethesda wanted to offer it at a lower price but someone at Microsoft insisted on the outrageous $2.50 price tag. Whatever the case, the backlash was bad enough that it became a long running meme. But even so, the DLC was still popular enough to generate a lot of sales and make the rest of the industry take notice.
Fast forward to today and, well, just look at the first post of this thread. $11 for a dinner table. $18 for a stone table with a green candle. $7 for a funny looking sword. $5 for a banner. And the saddest part is that this is mostly on par with the rest of the industry. Many times of late I’ve seen purely cosmetic not-so-"micro"transactions for single items priced at or even above the cost of an entire brand new game.
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You mean this?
Why do you assume that a pack called “Flamboyant Feasts” contains just the dinner table, as opposed to any number of items that you can place on the table, similar to what the Savage Steel mod offers?
I’m guessing we’re talking about the “Black Magic Starter Set” now?
Same as above, how come you’re assuming we’re talking about a table and a candle, rather than the “candle”, the torch on that wall, whatever that contraption next to the “candle” is, all the sigils you can paint on the foundations (that’s not a table, by the way) and the walls, and who knows what other recipes?
Let me guess, “Arcane Armaments”?
“Armaments”, plural. Picturing 3 weapons right in the screenshot, not sure how many are included in the pack.
Of all the things that I’ve seen in these videos, the only things that I can be sure are egregiously overpriced are these:
Even $2 for a single item is absurd, much less $5. But these are the only examples I’ve seen of a single-item offering. Everything else depicts a bunch of items right there in the image and has a name that indicates that it’s a pack of we-don’t-really-know-how-many-items inside.
Yeah, I get it. We got used to lower prices for Conan Exiles DLCs. For better or for worse, those days are gone. But I really don’t see why we have to not only assume, but deliberately distort what little we’ve been shown to paint the worst possible picture.
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Don’t kid yourself. “we-don’t-really-know-how-many-items inside”. Yeah, I’ve seen enough in game stores to know better than that and I suspect you have as well. When it comes to in game stores, typically what you see in the preview image is everything you get. That “Arcane ArmamentS(plural)” pack with three weapons very likely only contains those three specific weapons.
Same goes for the others.
The Black Magic Starter Set looks like maybe four items. Foundation, wall, torch, small globe thing and the altar. And I really, REALLY doubt that the “Flamboyant FeastS(plural)” pack contains more than the table, chair, candle stick, and the five or six plates with food. Assuming that the table and food isn’t just one model. Certainly no where near the number of items that mod you linked offers.
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