I get this real bad felling we are going to see an expansion to thrall abilities.
We’ll get it half working, more jank then joy.
Not saying I don’t want to see some hunter gatherer thralls. I’d like a hunter follower, a thrall that will skin or butcher; depending on tool given.
I’d love to drop the golems for worker thralls. But fucom.
I would like a thrall that … when I do research and it is the best thrall in the game … I can spend hours and hours leveling them up to have a good defense around my base. Like say … Tiemos … and that THEY DONT GET NERFED and waste my time.
Then I would like to do more research and find what the best thrall is after that patch and spend hours and hours leveling those … Relic Hunter Treasure Seekers … and beef up my defenses and get ready for the new PURGE system! And not have then GET NERFED!!!
And then I would like to do even more research and find the best thrall and start leveling them up (Cannibal Brutes, Ritualists, Ansina, etc) … and beef up my defenses to do PURGES but … THEY GET NERFED! More waste of time.
I guess what I am saying is … STOP destroying player progress!!! Let us keep what we spent hours and hours working on!!! I play on PVE … What are you going to nerf next??? What Thrall should we avoid and not waste hundreds if not thousands of hours on?
At least give us BACK the EXP we wasted on those thralls to add to the new ones! A dynamic world means changes around us … not US changing. But whatever … I don’t mind if thralls have no abilities or some abilities … just getting tired of leveling them up for days. weeks, months and they getting nerfed!
Make up your damn minds already … it’s been what … 7 or 8 years!? (there were no thralls in early access but you know what I mean) …
Leave my Thralls alone!!! LOL
Canibal Brites where a bug. Everyone knew it. And everyone knew a nerf was coming. How could you not expect it ? Thryare also fast levelers.
Teimoa was totally unbalanced we all SEE they nerf coming in fact it tooks longwr than expected
Relic hunter where too powrful for the risk and easy to get.
There is Indeed a Lot of balancing to do… So… More is coming, do hope they Fix the mess with thralls
So expecting them to have a patch with what they meant is wrong! And I did not know it. I guess I am not in the FUNCOM mailing list where they sent me an email saying … THIS IS A BUG don’t use this!
And I try to stay away from the internet posts that tell you all the secrets … that ruins the game … I want to explore and experience it myself … not be told what to expect. But that is just me …
So maybe I should wait … what? 6 months after each patch to give them time to fix stuff before we play it?
So it was my bad! Ok my bad!!
My bad!
I thought the phrase … “Going Live” meant it was tried and true and it is now released and for the most part wont be changed! So Going Live means nothing then!?
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Sorry Deacon … didn’t mean to corrupt your post … was also asking for a solution but … no one has a solution … they just want to argue with you.
But I might be wrong!
Honestly, I just want the “hidden” damage multiplier have it be something we can contribute to, or at least be part of the visible stat block
Example: feeding a Noob River thrall a special potion (Demon Blood, Gold Dust, and, I don’t know, Obsidian or something) increases its multiplier from garbage to garbage +.1 (To a maximum of whatever the highest base thrall is. I think 2.5 right now). That way you can find your favorite thralls based on appearance, type, culture, etc etc and make them decent through effort.
Yea give your thrall a tool and go in front to slay…
Love it! As long as their harvest rates are balanced however.
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Welcome back m8, long time no see. What else these thralls must eat 
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Thanks for the welcome back! To answer your question, Gruel, of course. Gotta mix in the demon blood/Gold Dust/Obsidian Shards somehow, right?
Maybe an age of followers will come in the future.
Near or far, i don’t know and tbh, i have no rush.
But the player base of this game must decide 1 crucial thing. Do we enjoy the the magical abilities of followers , or we want their companionship more realistic?
The way it is right now a player enjoys freedom of movement and the followers that do not share the same mechanics have to warp or cross from paths that physically cannot fit to pass.
Then devs gave us thrall immunity in lava and we the players use this advantage to do purges in lava 
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It’s not players fault, it’s devs fault 100%.
Thralls cannot mount so they run as fast as a horse runs or warp…
Thralls cannot climb, so they warp and occasionally they accept falling damage, it’s a bug - feature that comes and goes through times.
Thralls cannot sense the danger of lava and choose best possible paths to get less damage possible, so they got immunity.
Thralls cannot choose to stay behind in a battle and heal or dodge very slow and obvious harmful hits.
So if we choose thralls to have the magical abilities they already have, all they need is some tweaks indeed.
If we choose realistic companionship, which i would prefer wholeheartedly, then thralls need more than an age 
. Yet having a thrall with you now would be almost like having a teammate with you. It would be a more caring companionship than this mindless bull… it is right now.
Right now a player have to choose between 2 options.
I go alone and do everything super fast easy, but cannot carry a lot of loot.
I go with thralls, i do everything a bit slower, i can carry plenty loot but i am vulnerable!
In both occasions, this will work if the performance of the game is ok! If not you better choose option 1 and have a circle of power ready to retrieve your body 
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I Hope They never remove ability from Thralls walk in lava and i Hope They give back the Thrall fall damage imunity too since They dont know and never Will make Thralls play like players following climbing jumping.
I dont want realistic Thralls i Just want Thralls fixed no bugs like stand by or MMA fighters using hands punching.
I use my Thrall because their weapons do not lose durability. Was a major pain getting some of the epics I wanted … and I just destroyed one attacking mobs.
So now I let the thrall do all the attacking because it is a pain finding that ONE Epic weapon you want … since they are RANDOM. (used to be u could repair them or buy them with Oboulus Coins but they nerfed that).
As long as my thrall can attack and kill without their armor and weapons wearing away … I am happy. (I play on PvE)
And especially when I spent hours upon hours farming them weapons and had 12 chests … most filled with those weapons go POOF during that patch where the Nemedian foundations screwed us all! And we did not get them back … But … whatever … more waste of time … add things that wont make players WASTE THEIR TIME … lol
Fall damage for thralls is inconsistent and needs to be fixed or removed.
Sometimes I will jump down a cliff that is only maybe ten feet high and lose a negligible amount of health or perhaps none at all. Then I will hear the two thralls following me make a horrible pained noise, and I will look around and see that they have taken a fourth of their health in damage.
Other times I will tell my thralls to wait at the top of a tall cliff until I can climb or jump down. Then I will tell them to return. They will appear at the bottom with me, but one will make a horrible pained noise from having lost half their health, but the other will be undamaged.
Hope in the Future They add a way where we can change the Thralls face hair everything like the orb of negal also i want They raise the Thrall level limit from 20 to 100.
This is the only incorrect opinion you have my friend and most in this forum.
They do know and they absolutely can! They can even make thralls play better than players, even npcs. They just don’t have the time, the directions or the “vision” to do something like it.
The reason we have bugs has nothing to do with Fundamental incompetence and it’s really sad when other “devs” spread these rumors while they know and understand how overloaded schedule these devs have.
Using exploits or unfair mechanisms in this game doesn’t help anyone and especially the ones who use it. This game has loss and everyone should feel it, because without it, the game is boring!
AmunSet way to totally derail a thread on the first post. This has nothing to do with nerfing thralls and everything to do with expecting funcom to do a crappy job trying to copy soul mask thralls.
And how long have you been playing funcom games 
Two things to expect from funcom updates, more breaks then fixes, anything new is going to be borked and need a hot fix, and thralls /pets are forever getting nerfed one way or another.
I think it should be based on thrall level + tool level.
I remember in a dev vid a while back they had alluded to giving thralls the golem harvesting abilities. Have been looking forward to it because I think golems are janky, noisy, and a waste of materials considering some can’t handle showbills. Hell a salamander can take out a golem simply because a golem targets it’s standing opponents chest, salamanders don’t stand.
Maybe it’s me but I consider thralls expendable. I hate losing them, especially named bearers. But if one of my thralls makes it to 20th level I retire them, they deserve it.
For me, I’m the fighter, the thrall is the side kick. They are there as a distraction while I heal up, or the bearer of my loot.
But it would be so nice if set thralls could earn XP. Wouldn’t it be nice if you didn’t have to level all your thralls for your purge base and just running purges leveled them.
But, funcom. Even though they may try to implement it; and has already been done in a mod, doesn’t mean it will work any better then, oh, the new bench UI.
Supposedly they way things will wortk in the future you will have to place bench thralls in world; like the bar tender, where you can dress them; I sense incoming waifu costumes. I have no doubt they will add a bench like is in the mods, to customize your thralls.
That way instead of have to spend a bunch of time collecting thralls with a very specific look; say very buxom and blond, to hang in the 2 dozen gibbets you’ve hung around your open to the world maproom; oh yes I am judging you, you can just augment, and bleach.
Thrall limit is 65 for an individual, hundred if you make a clan full of alts.
They could make bosses fight smart enough they can’t be beaten. And it’s not so much time as memory space and computational speed.
8 years ago i was fortunate enough to be on a forum run by someone that was well known in AI at the time. They had a chat bot set up then that took me 15 minutes of chatting with to realized it was AI. Imagine what an AI boss could do now.
Odd thing was, it was a Poser forum. Why some one that was a genius at AI was running a Poser forum I have no clue. Poser is an actual; and the first, digital Barbie app. You dress the figure, POSE the figure, and render your book cover art.
How smart your game AI is dependent on how much space you allocate to it. I’m sure funcom devs have some hard set limits to AI because of it.
Yes, they definitely can. When they did it on chapter 3, even with this crappy behavior, people just didn’t do many word boss fights. I was running around the servers having fun killing them my self. And they were just a bit harder, not as hard as you say.
So they collected this information from live services and made world bosses marshmallows again.
The game needs to be loved by the current player base above all, because this is their main financial support.
When they decide huge changes, like inventory UI for example, they know that they will face huge frustration from the player base even if it’s for the best.
Now you’ll tell me, how come the new inventory UI is for the best?
Simple! In a well organized chest round you can empty a completely full inventory in minutes, just by opening each chest and press one button. You don’t need to search anymore where’s the freaking iron bars i collected, find them and store them. Now you go to the chest of metal bars, press one button and all the metal bars are stored where they supposed to.
It use to take me hell of time to organize and store, now it’s way simpler and fun. But not before i cursed them for trying to change my gaming habits .
Unfortunately my friend they have to please every “lvl” of player base. So doing things extra hard is not an option.
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