Let's talk about Pricing and the Bazaar (We knew this conversation was going to happen)

yeah I’m not going to buy a single thing on this overpriced junk, i would consider if the 7800 coins where 10 us, thats the closeset to the old dlc pack value

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I could see giving $15 to $20 for the Bazaar items, but trying to push you to do 50 is ridiculous.

And that is EXACTLY what it is. $45 to get all these items (but dangling a carrot to just go ahead and drop $50)

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I’d love to buy those Bazaar items, but I can’t afford them :sob:
I’m too poor to support funcom.

Just the battle pass for little me I guess. :smiling_face_with_tear:

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If it doesn’t sell, its gonna be simple. They stop life support on the game. Ppl here thinking if it doesn’t sell they will lower prices… are delusional. Either ppl buy and they sell more. People don’t buy, they don’t meet charts, game dies. That’s how it goes. Nothing will change this. I guess the ppl that want the game to be supported should be happy with the whales, as disturbing as it is how the game industry developes these practises. Atleast they keep to play the game. However I am sorry for those that are simply collectors and want to have everything for the sake of collecting, but unfortunately do not have the money/means to do so.

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People like you keep saying stuff “if you don’t see value in it, then don’t buy it”, and I’m wondering why you think the rest of us need to be told that.

Yeah, we know that if someone sees value in buying something, they’ll buy it. We really, really do know that.

I was hoping they were, and waiting to see what the actual prices would be before forming my opinion. Now I know what the prices are, and I have my opinion. I’m not going to buy anything from the BLB.

“Screaming at a wall red faced and angry” is projection. Sure, there are probably people who took it that way. Then there are people like me, who are disappointed and sad. Then there are other people who are disgusted. Or people who are angry not with Funcom, but with those of us who kept saying we would give Funcom the benefit of the doubt and see what the actual prices would be like.

Point being that you’re the one who’s lumping us all in the same bag.

As for being able to accomplish something, hope dies last. Yeah, I know how things work. I don’t have high hopes that this feedback will accomplish anything. Hell, I think that even if the BLB sales tank and nobody buys anythink, not even that will produce a fundamental change. I’m cynical and jaded enough to think that Funcom will probably resort to more frequent and more aggressive stunts like flash sales and special discounts and BS like that, rather than changing their monetization strategy to treat their customers better.

I know all that. But:

More than half of the posts on these forums are like that. Seriously.

There’s a reason mods will sometimes take matters into their hands and consolidate multiple threads into one, and then maintain that consolidation by merging new threads into the “official complaint megathread”. I expect something like that will happen with this sooner or later.

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Battle Pass alone costs like 3 full priced dlcs in my region :slight_smile:
Thanks Funcom for not implementing any regional prices.
Good luck on your whale hunt.

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Who is this “you all”?

I’ve made my opinions clear in a calm, non-confrontational matter.

Should I spell it out to make it clearer?

Dear Funcom Team: While I find value in the assets you have created, I feel you have overvalued the price of said assets, and therefore decline to purchase them at your given terms. In the future, should you re-examine the prices offered and adjust to amounts that are more in-line with the relative value of previous DLC items, I will re-visit my decision to not spend any money in the BLB based upon new information.

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@Refrin This is the issue. The new system isn’t one where you can remain as a collector. The store is set up for you to get something special that you like and leave the rest behind. You don’t buy every Medium shirt from the clothing store just because it fits you, do you? This is the fundamental cultural change that we have to come to terms with. No body is going to be able to keep up with collecting everything.

Even if prices come down to 50% what the retail price is now which is a bit easier to swallow. That’s $10 for the larger sets, $20 ($5X4) for the medium sets, and $5 ((2.5+7.5/)2) for the small items . $260+$520+$120=$900 a year to buy it all. No one with any sense of fiscal pressure can do that for a game. So you buy what you like and be unique. Give up on the idea of getting it all.

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It’s awful. Turns the stomach.

Wife and I could buy the BP for $20. That’s fair and I can go for that every 3 months just fine.

The Bazaar… blegh

I might get the table and sandstone pieces. But I will do it disgusted and feeling like Funcom is ripping me off.

I’ll make sure to talk about it everywhere I go too. Funcom, Tencent, “Micro” transaction hell. You know the story. Funcom is now part of it.

Have not committed yet. Not sure I will. If I can’t afford to buy it all eventually, I frankly don’t want any of it.

P.S. Those little red reduced price sales gimmick slashes disgust me. FOMO in our face.

Fun game, but I can’t afford the abuse, neither can my wallet.

More I type less likely I am to make this purchase. Better stop here before I uninstall.

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These prices are abusive and exploity even for a U.S. household.

Funcom will have to shut down the servers soon anyways because of rising energy costs. R.I.P.

To purchase the Battle Pass and all items on the Bazaar you will need to purchase the $49.99 package.

Even if you grind the 1200 Crom Coins included in the BP, stepping it down to the more affordable $34.99 package won’t leave you with enough Crom Coins to purchase all items in the Bazaar.

Last. If you purchase the $49.99 (7,800 Crom Coins) package today, with Bazaar items on sale. Then grind all 60 levels for the included 1200 Crom Coins, you still won’t be able to afford the next rotation of the Bazaar that will happen in less than a month.

This is for a single account.

If you play with your family it will become unaffordable very quickly.

No telling how often they will be adding items to the Bazaar.

Depending on the amount of content they add to the Bazaar with coming Battle Passes, you are looking at ~49.99 or more per month, per account.

The only way that comes down is if they let the Bazaar stagnate for months on end with no new content, trying to lure out all the dollars from peoples pockets. shrug

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Well I could say: I told you so, but…

I told you so!

Sorry couldn´t resist.
Maybe some people get the message now. A lot of us tried to warn people beforehand that this would happen. Even if you love the game, this is a total rip off.

Some people need to get a little reality check. Europe is at war, we have an energy and gas crisis because of this. We need to save every penny to get over the winter without freezing to death in our houses because we can not pay the bills anymore. 7% inflation last month. But yeah sure, lets spend 50+ bucks on online items. Because its on sale. Tencent then can “donate” half of that money to their chinese goverment so they can stay in business. Yeah thanks, but no thanks!

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To borrow maths people did on the other thread,

So a near ~2,000% increase assuming no sales, and a near ~1,500% with. Predatory is the default assumption with pricing like that.

Someone else did point out that, to continue to ‘support’ the store, if the rotations are roughly monthly and did not cycle all the way back for a year (Another tactic frequently used in gacha & mobile games real money transaction stores), it’d require an additional ~$900 usd of input per year from someone to keep up with the cosmetics.

The argument of “It is optional” is not a good one when minor / singular cosmetic pieces rapidly add up to multiple times the cost of the game.

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Vote with your wallet and vote with your steam review.

If you don’t like it give your feedback to people who may buy this game in nearest future.
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FOMO FOMO FOMO…

It is almost like a chant for geeks are us.

I still think this is a silly concept. When you go to the grocery store, do you buy everything the person ahead of you in the check out line has, for fear of missing out? When your neighbor buys a new car, do you run out and buy the same one, for fear of missing out?

I get that the items seem overpriced, but we are talking about digital skins in an online game. If you do not purchase them, will it affect global warming?

I could easily purchase all of the items in the bazaar, but like others, I chose to be selective.

This

And this

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This is such a heavy disappointment. Funcom had such a good thing going, CE was such an amazing game. And the bright minds in the suits decide to ruin everything by adding an overpriced FOMO dung in the game…Years after the release.

I am really hoping that people won’t support this and will not buy it, so they lose money. I personally will rather throw my money in river, than spend it on Funcom’s games from now on…

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Precisely ^^^ you aren’t going to collect everything. And thats ok.

I don’t understand the “saying its optional is not a argument”

Why isn’t it?

Assumption but - because you want everything and saying its optional makes it not a good argument?

I went in, bought a few things, left a few things that I don’t want and wont’ spend money on, and started my private server up. I don’t understand the outrage. Just don’t-buy-the-optional-items.

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It’s not about FOMO. Sure, you’ll find some people who mentioned it, and some of them know what FOMO actually means as opposed to using a convenient buzzword, and a fraction of those believe that FOMO is the main problem here. But most of us are really complaining about something else.

I also could purchase all of the items in the bazaar at this moment, just like I could choose to go splurge at an expensive steakhouse, or spend around $200 on a fancy mechanical keyboard, or whatever.

That’s not really the point.

The point is that if I go once a month to a fancy restaurant and spend (let’s say, for the sake of illustrating the argument) $120 there, and that restaurant suddenly changes their prices so I would have to pay $1920 for the same meal, I would be pretty damn pissed. And no argument about how that restaurant hasn’t raised their prices for the last 4 years despite the inflation, or how they weren’t making enough money to keep the lights on, or how if I really enjoyed their food all this time I should want to support them, would convince me that this price hike was justified.

And you can say, “it’s optional” and “you don’t have to eat there every month”, and stuff like that all you want, but that doesn’t change the fact that I got used to eating there once a month and I can’t see any justification for having to pay 16 times as much from now on.

I don’t need you or anyone to tell me I don’t have to buy this stuff. I’m perfectly aware of that. Hell, I don’t have to play the game if I don’t want to, but I still discuss how the game can be improved in these forums instead of giving up on it when things aren’t good enough.

I would have accepted paying 2x or even 4x. But 16x? That’s downright ludicrous.

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We are not collecting the Queen’s Gems here. The price of the BP is fine. $10 for 3 months is NICE. The Bazaar is a bad joke. A table and food items that can be placed, a handful of building pieces. Charging $10-$20 dollars for that is ridiculous. It’s just as ridiculous for you to make the argument that “we can’t collect everything”.

I’d pay $1, I might even pay $5. $10 is scum, $20 is scam.
10 building pieces, for 10 dollars. LITERALLY. That’s concave-head pricing.

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I’ll take 1 of hevuryting! Deeez prizes ceem hair!

But you didn’t answer my question.

You’re just ranting about the price of something. My question is why not just not buy the things if you feel they are too expensive.

Thats how a free market works.

And as thats how the free market works - then if the price is REALLY too high, the people will speak with their wallet and Funcom/Tencent will need to adjust their price.

If people are buying those things, then the price isn’t too high because people are buying the things.

We will find out how the free market speaks to this particular scenario soon.

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