Pets vs Thralls - Any Plans For Balance?

[Taemien]

@LostBrythunian

Pets are followers, attempting to discuss them in a vacuum, without looking at other followers or what function a follower in the game plays is disingenuous. It is not possible to discuss pet balance without discussing follower balance as a whole.

I’m going to address this again, so that things can be a bit more clear. Specifically in a discussion you and I have already had on this topic:

Thrall vs pets, i just dont get it

Normalization is what will fix the problems with Thralls and Pets, and to some extent mounts as well. 3.0 kinda condensed the stats a bit. On one hand this had some downside such as losing Survival (losing debuff duration reduction) and an oversight of Grit becoming a stat and existing followers having Zero armor bonuses. But the benefit is we got closer to stats mattering. Right now a perk that gives +3 Strength to a Pet or Thrall using a mace is a substantial thing. Before it was ‘meh’. I’m g…

To which you replied:

Thrall vs pets, i just dont get it

While this one agrees on almost all points (would allow more base stat variance based on affiliation perhaps but that’s a long side bar), especially the loathing for the hidden modifiers and fluctuating multipliers, finding Tier 4 Fighters for the lowest of factions is easy. Exiles have at least three guaranteed named thrall spawn locations, Cannibals have the Ritualist and Thugra as fixed spawns and there are three places where Cannibal Brutes are very common even if not guaranteed. Likewise Pi…

Now, my opinion on followers (pets and thralls) has not changed much (if at all) since December of 2022. Some of my ideas might be slightly different as I throw different darts at the board since most can agree anything is better than what we currently have.

I didn’t go into great detail about how hard it would be to obtain different tier followers in that thread. But I have in past threads (and I really really don’t want to dig that far back) to which most agreed. T4 Thrall or Pets should not be as easy to get as T1. I don’t believe anyone is going to say otherwise.

So unless you’ve 180’d since our last discussion on the topic, I don’t believe we need to be in anymore contention towards each other on this topic, or in general.