Started having real bad performance post latest update (black ice at fault?)

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returning player here. lemme start off by saying theres been many great changes and additions with past updates which im grateful for. thank you so much for sticking with the game and updating it for this long. that said, the game seems better optimized in some areas than i recall and less optimized in others

i play on a singleplayer game (local, not a server). i started having pretty bad stutters and dips around my base which weren’t present from the start. they kinda just appeared as i played the game but they only appear around my base when i look in the direction of this black ice castle i started building, and only during the day

im on a pretty high end setup with 32 gigs of ram, an intel i5 12600kf cpu and an rtx 3060 (12 gb variant) and usually clock over 100 fps so i dont think i dont meet the requirements. i ran thorough tests to try and narrow down the exact cause and i can safely rule out my pets, thralls and torches. i figured it could be the ancient braziers i put on the bridge leading up to the castle but no, no matter how many of em i removed the framerate still dipped

it seems like the black ice building pieces themselves cause these dips. its worth noting i havent used any foundations, only pillars, ceilings and walls. im thinking it could be the amount of pillars i used for the bridge and castle, adding a whole lotta math to the game. which wouldnt explain why i only lag when i look at the castle but i guess its worth testing

i havent tested it yet, but im going to see about removing some pillars and hope it doesnt undo hours of building, then update this post. if anyone has any insight or this is a known bug, i’d appreciate if you could tell me down in the comments

attached are my video settings (im running the game at 1080p, borderless)

UPDATE: i went ahead and removed a lot of pillars both from the bridge and the castle’s supports, hoping that was the cause for the dips but no, it didnt get any better. i then got the idea to test whether or not black ice actually is the cause so i knuckled down and spent some time replacing the castle’s supports with stormglass and since having done so the stutters have been eliminated

so yeah, black ice definitely is the culprit here, and not the size of the build or amount of pillars used like i thought at first. at least that holds true for big builds, because i fortunately didnt need to change the castle itself which is only 6 walls high

i guess all thats left now is to ask that this is looked at because i actually really like the look of the black ice building pieces and unfortunately theyre either very unoptimized or have some bug in them. thanks in advance (:

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I do believe i have heard of this one before. If i remember right you are correct on it being specific to Black Ice. So no Yamatai builds with black ice walls at the bottom, sadly.

Some claim it is a factor, some don’t, but no definitive proof.

I am limited in my ability to investigate but within the past year clan and I made the decision to avoid using black ice on Officials because we did see a difference.

When I discussed it on here a year ago there is a difference compared to T3 stone (can’t compare to DLC or BLB) in that there are 3 assets which is more than stone. I’m going off memory, when I get a moment I’ll link the discussion.

Here’s the link

it checks out, i had to replace my castle’s supports with stormglass and then the stutters were gone. unfortunate but at least it still looks nice and i was able to keep the bridge and bump my settings back up to what they were

seeing as i just replaced the black ice supports with stormglass which fixed the poor performance around my base, it’d be a major coinkidink if those building pieces WERENT linked to the stutters. it definitely seems unoptimized or like it has a bug. what really stuck out to me is, volumetric lighting is the biggest culprit; black ice does not like light illuminating it from the back and under objects, like with my castle’s supports

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Frontier and black ice make huge lag in single player and oficial servers i have tested it and posted some time ago here.

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Oof, Frontier as well? That’s a shame.
That means i gotta revisit a tiny area in my base.

damn paid dlc too? that is not okay

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Get ready for Age of Heroes :rofl: :vulcan_salute:

pretty intrigued by that update actually, are you suggesting it’ll launch buggy?

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It’s not a question of if, but when. It got delayed twice already.

september 5 is the new date for the beta… hopefully it doesnt get delayed again, but its better it launches in a good state than a buggy mess

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