I think the best option for people who hate that PVP causes changes is for them to go play PVE only games.
Trying to convince them that changes happen because of game vision and design, rather than a single mode of play is futile. That is reality. But they live in a fantasy world. Let them stay in that fantasy and be miserable. Its what they want.
Instead just gatekeep them. Tell them its a PVP (or PVE if its a PVPer doing it in reverse) and that they should find something else to play.
At the end of the day you wonât be telling anything untrue. Conan Exiles is Conan Exiles. Its going to have Conan Exiles changes made to it, as it always has.
It is always humorous to read a group of posts calling for player unity and an end to divisiveness - and then in their next breath those same players throw insults at a broad swath of the player baseâŠ
You should try my SP games.
When I play SP, itâs to make the game much harder.
Try fighting against an Arena Champion at level 20, with a kitted momentum, feasts in her inventory, legendary heavy armor on the beams at the top of the Well of Skelos entrance.
But I got your point.
To make an analogy, I donât think it was wrong for Abolitionists to divide themselves from their counterparts.
I believe PVP and PVE can function just fine in this game. PVE and PVP players can easily get along and those that do are great people. Those who donât, I will be nice and say they should seek other games.
PvE and PvP players do get along. Itâs the builders who are the problem, they are neither PvE or PvP players, yet they keep complaining and pushing the game in a wrong (boooring) direction.
Kill builders with fire, hang builders on the cross, impale builders, drown builders in Noob River, throw builders into the volcano, leave them builders in the desert for the sandstorm to tear their flesh off, test new fatalities on the builders, offer the builders as a food to the Darfari, cast them out to the jungleâŠ
For the sake of honesty, it must be stated that the feedback from the community often focuses on symptoms rather than causes, which makes it very, very hard to identify the actual issue to be changed.
That said, Funcom shouldâve learned this by now.
Thatâs just not true. Iâm playing this game for a while now and started with pvp years ago on a private 20 man server (open for anyone). Iâve seen the exploits and Iâve seen the complains.
Yes, some things were broken and exploits existed, but the big changes to mounted combat, pets and thralls werenât based on exploits but on a) Funcoms ideas and b) crying on the forums aka feedback.
This for example:
There were a lot of those threads before Isle of Siptah was released and it was mainly people complaining about exactly âPets too strongâ, âThralls too strongâ.
Funny thing is that thralls today are way stronger than those mentioned in a four year old thread.
And still there would be such an easy solution for this:
an Admin command for
Absolutely. When I come upon an exploit I send a private bug report and so do my friends.
What doesnât seem to happen is the cross referencing from the data to player outcry.
Iâve only seen 1 exploit Iâve reported get actioned on in a reasonable amount of time. Thankfully it wasnât widespread, never a YT video made on it and wasnât whispered about in the communityâŠ
AGAIN, we agree with you that FC fails miserably when it comes to balancing.
But FC is to blame for that, NOT the players.
Youâre long enough on this form to know whatâs going on.
NOBODY cried for a tavern system, NOBODY cried for an overhaul of the dye bench of all things⊠but we got it/will get it.
On the other hand A LOT of people cry for a fix of the thrall pots and pet feeder boxes SINCE OVER A YEAR!⊠but nothing has happened.
A LOT of people cry for the pet rebalance they promised about ONE YEAR AGO!⊠also didnât happenâŠ
They even refuse to comment on those things.
So why do you think it makes sense to blame a specific demographic of players for FCâs nonsensical decisions?!
Why do you think theyâre listening more to PvP players (which are a minority anyway), than to other players?
Did you see Andyâs latest so called âQ&Aâ thread?
We didnât get even a single reply to any of our questions.
Also, i did actually read through the whole thread youâve linked there. I didnât see a lot of PvP players complaining, mostly PvE folks.
I didnât see any replies from the staff either.
Itâs also a bit of an irony that you complained about thralls being too op YOURSELF in that specific thread.
And now youâre blaming other players for the bad state of thralls and pets?!
@Kikigirl , @biggcane55 and me donât disagree with you on the nonsensical balancing.
But it doesnât make sense to divide the players even further with such accusations.
I canât say that I am totally thrilled byt the idea that one of my threads is used in this manner. I donât feel the need to start nor contribute to any form of âanti Funcomâ movements.
Appearently many bugs are difficult to solve and yes, some are more then just an annoyance. The game is great and players play it at free will, no one is forced to do so.
I see that in most case Funcom takes my threads serious, even ask more questions to get the problem clear and I appreciate it.
So lets see things in the right perspective; itâs a great game, has a creative team working on it and yes there are silly and annoying bugs. Thatâs it. Letâs not start a crusade please.
Iâm sorry if it came across like that, i simply wanted to show our fellow exile that there is other things a lot of people concerned about, which seem to⊠not get much attention.
And the very topic in your specific thread is something that people brought up multiple times.
In one of those threads a guy was asking how his base on a PvE server got destroyed.
I simply explained to him whatâs going on, just to provide some information. I didnât insult anyone or criticize anyone, i just shared the information and tried to give some advice how to avoid that.
But my comment got silenced, and when i asked the staff member âwhy?â, my account got silenced for 2 weeks.
Reason: âwould not listen to staff feedbackâ
And of course that was quite frustrating.
Doesnât exactly encourage your customers to participate in discussions about their product.
But hey! ⊠iâm still here.
If i would hate FC, the community or the game i wouldnât be here anymore.
I also donât tell anyone to stop playing or blame them for having fun.
Ask @stelagel one of the most relaxed members of the community. NEVER would i blame someone for having fun or take anything away from them.
But iâm not willing to eat all the crap we getting served either.
Iâm happy for everyone who doesnât have any complaints and simply enjoys the game.
I think weâre all here because it is an amazing game.
We can both love it and be critical of it.
Doesnât mean Funcom employees individually are to blame either⊠the decisions from the ones who have the power though, thereâs a lot to be critical about.
Was
It was an amazing game and we all saw the potential for it to be even more so.
But at present, it seems that whoever is at the helm is deciding to make it something that this one distinctly considers amazing only in how frustrating and obtuse it has become.
UNfun is far from UNfun, he is literally fun.
But if i can translate his nickname better than it shows it would beâŠ
UNited fun!
People speak their soul because they are out of love with this game and probably this forum, understand nothing less please.
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