A Thread Suggestion - Mod Load Orders

Ahh yes, the mod load order, that most archaic, esoteric and mystical list of sacred placement. We all have our own versions of what is right, what works, what goes where, etc. The problem, however, is just that, we all have our own versions as there really is no definitive guide on the subject. Considering the number of mods available, such a thing might be near impossible as well.

In that vein, I am simply proposing a thread wherein we share our mod lists in order. This would allow everyone to compare and try to draw logical conclusions as to how to setup their own servers.

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My current list, in singleplayer, is shorter than others I’ve used in the past, but seems to be working for me so far -
ModControlPanel
Fashionist
Savage Steel Vol 1
Arena Pier
Emotes for Thralls
Pythagoras Support Beams
LBPR Additional Features
LBPR
Immersive Armor

(I did also have DryBuildingsIndoors at the bottom of the list, but that got discontinued for obvious reasons.)

I don’t know how much use that is for server owners - but I guess every little helps, maybe :man_shrugging:

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Not what you were asking for but some tips:

AoC’s general guide to mod load order (load order sheet):

Less Building Placement Restrictions:
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Kerozard’s Paragon Leveling:
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Emberlight:

Feel free to add more :slight_smile:

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No that’s just fine. If we condense all the info together in one place, it will definitely make things a lot easier for people…theoretically.

And again, your the best Narelle!

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Every bit of information is helpful, really. The more we add, the more we can compare and find how things work best, or what kind of wiggle room exists. We’ll drop ours up shortly…we’ve been rearranging, amongst other things, hence where the idea came from :smiley:

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This is our original list, which we’ve been using (and growing) for a little over a year now:

Pippi - User & Server Management
Emberlight
Dude’s Delightful Decorations
Dude’s Delightful Decorations Deux
IMMERSE RP: Placeables Decor
IMMERSE RP: Fright Night
IMMERSE RP: Festive Days
Shanis Stuff
Lotus Cooking & Brewing
Crucial Decorations
MSCasaDesFlores
Dark Desires
Roleplay Redux
Northern Timber
DungeonMasterTools
Extended Mounts
Barbarian Barber
RA: Character Customisation
Immersive Armor
Fashionist
Better Thralls
The Darkwoods
Friiezy’s Mod
RPVillageAddOn
Endgame Extended Weapon Arsenal (EEWA)
Less Building Placement Restrictions
Kerozards Paragon Leveling - A Multigun Refresh
Hosav’s Custom UI Mod - Revamped!
Expanded Map - Curse Wall Removal

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This is our new list, freshly loaded and (so far) running smoothly. :smiley:
As you’ll see, there’s already a massive difference in the layout.

Better Thralls
Extended Mounts
Barbarian Barber
Dude’s Delightful Decorations
Dude’s Delightful Decorations Deux
Crucial Decorations
Dark Desires
Emberlight
Northern Timber
IMMERSE RP: Buildings & Placeables Decor
Shani’s Stuff
Less Building Placement Restrictions (LBPR)
Fashionist
Immersive Armor
MSCasaDesFlores
RA: Character Customisation
Lotus Cooking & Brewing
Kerozards Paragon Leveling - Reloaded
Friiezys Mod
RPVillageAddOn
The Darkwoods
Endgame Extended Weapon Arsenal (EEWA)
Roleplay Redux
Pippi - User & Server Management
Hosav’s Custom UI Mod
DungeonMasterTools

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And it’s wrong. Your first list was far closer to being accurate then this new one. It’s like you took my instructions for LBPR and threw them out the window. (Narelle took a screenshot of it).

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Slightly uncalled for response my man. Wasn’t starting this to see who’s right and wrong. Simply showing what has been used and is working. If it doesn’t continue to work, then so be it but, as of now, it is working and holding. A statement like ā€˜and it’s wrong’ implies there’s only one way for mods to load. Last I checked, no such perfect order exists, hence why I started this thread.

Which one of us is the mod author for LBPR and has been working on it since 2018?

Ya, I’ll see myself out. If you want to pretend like the standard load order for LBPR is hogwash, then by all means.

I’m not arguing about who the author is whatsoever nor your knowledge on the subject but the attitude of ā€˜holier than thou’ is completely unnecessary. If your only input here is simply that anyway who doesn’t follow your word is ā€˜wrong’, then yes, kindly see your way out.

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Multigun was just saying that he knows how he has coded his mod (LBPR) and what it takes for it to run correctly. He is indeed ā€œholier than thouā€ when it comes to his own mods. If you come with an issue on the mod, the first thing we will ask you to do is move it below any and all mods that add placeables, building pieces and thralls. I gave you the order supported by a couple of reputable modders but you chose to ignore it, I suppose you do you :woman_shrugging:

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I will agree with this part, but you make it sound like he was speaking in a polite manner.

As he should be, since he understands them better. I’m not sure when, though, I attacked his knowledge.

Information that is good to know and, if we do indeed encounter an issue from our setup, we will bare that in mind.

Ignored it? No, I have simply been dealing with other things and have not read through it. Our list was altered today (as I believe you are aware already) by a simple suggestion from another player. Since we’d already stripped our server down, we threw it on to try it out. As of this writing, it’s still holding and we have yet to encounter a major issue, though we have not tested thoroughly by any means.

Now if you can explain to me where in this simple idea you or anyone can find cause for such an attitude to be dropped, please let me know.

It’s actually relatively simple. Either you stick to the manufacturer’s specifications or, in case of doubt, you are alone with your problem. Everyone is free to ignore the instructions for a product. Everyone is free to hold the hammer not by the handle but by the head, but keep the complaint to yourself that you can’t drive a nail into the wall with it.

So therefore the well-intentioned advice to all who read this thread: trust the modders. They have the experience and the view on the internals of the mod and know better what to consider than anyone else. The load orders don’t exist for free or because we modders were bored. They have a purpose. Just because a different load order seems to work with a specific set of mods doesn’t make it an alternative. You wanted our support in case of problems? Then stick to our guidelines. If in doubt, we will refuse any support until your mod order meets our specifications.

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I honestly see no point in continuing to engage in this discussion. The ship has sailed on this one. You had a relatively good load order with some problematic mods, I thought I would support the cause and give you and everyone else some guidance. Then you went ahead and basically ignored everything posted and came up with a completely random order that is supposedly working until we find out it is not. I guess we are all tired of people who refuse to listen but then they come to us for help or worse to demand us to fix their mess. I will see myself out.

Edit: If the point of this thread is for everyone to post their mod order just for the sake of posting it, then my apologies I have misunderstood your intend. In my personal opinion, a wrong mod order spread around is worse than no order being followed as this will inevitably result in increasing the number of issues and reports which both modders and users will have to deal with which is why people called you out.

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What the hell guys!! I have a lot of respect for those who make Mods for Conan and all the other games out there… Mulitgun made his point the argument / discussion was over and YET more of you pipe up carrying it on like Mothers at the school gate. If you read every Mod Authors order and follow them to the ā€˜T’ then some mods would need to share the same spot in the load order. Which is impossible. This thread was created so the community can share their ideas of how they have their Load Orders work best for them. Should We have issues down the line the Order list will be reevaluated. But until then we have an order that is working. So if others post their lists lets all be adults… look them over and think before we start pulling it apart… If issues arise then we can say ā€œOh hey have you thought of putting X Mod after Y Mod?ā€. We are not saying that our order is gospel. We are not saying ā€˜HEy YoU ShOulD fOlLoW wHAt We DonE’ . No. It’s just a simple thread to share ideas and experiences. If others wish to copy its on them. Just like if you copy someones homework… it never works out.

Sorry not sorry if you relate to being the child or mother in this.

so another one who likes to assert his own head and, contrary to all common sense, holds the hammer at the wrong end. i wonder who is the child there :man_shrugging:

you are welcome to do that, but then just without support

very mature indeed :+1:

if you don’t want feedback, don’t use a public forum