But this doesn’t say “you MUST go North, right now, hurry, it’s the only place to be”, which appears to be how you interpreted it? “Should” is the operative word and the rest of the dialogue kindly provided by Kanza supports most of the perspectives here.
I cannot remember when I first spoke to him. What I do remember though is the hyenas XD Of which I am not sure why you keep suggesting those who disagree with you go meet. I probably thought his dialogue was a “oh there must be cool things in the North” and then died again to a hyena and was afraid to step past the first north shoreline of noob river.
I find you a bit of an enigma to be frank. You claim to not like people so avoid multiplayer and appear to live in a vacuum as such. Yet come on here asking for changes and providing your perspective on a public website where anyone can make an account and provide their own.
I would suggest that you be a bit kinder. Not everyone thinks or does as you do. Not even us when we were first noobs. Clearly you’re the minority in your opinion; it’s not good or bad, it’s your delivery and subsequent words.
Look, my opinion is that the first NPC you are likely to encounter and actually speak to, tells me I should head north, that there are whole CITIES of exiles; he doesnt say hostile fortresses… cities; kinda hard to interpret that as: keep your pace, prepare, grow strong and find your way north, and he doesn’t tell you to hurry or prepare. The vacuum you speak of does not only pertain to me. Not everyone plays like I do but everyone is affected by this issue. Whether you think it important or not is irrelevant, the fact is: The first person you speak of encourages you to go north; as it it were the starter zone of sorts, and going north at those stages is deadly for a clueless, new player. If we disagree, then we disagree.
My delivery is as such. It was called belligerant, I call it blunt. I got called a sheep at the offset, I do not hear you complain about folk offending other folk, yet you are offended by my bluntness. I believe I have a valid point, and I will defend it. Have I offended anyone? Attacked or mocked anyone? Have I insulted or put down anyone? Read my answers when I am mocked, and see if you can find derrogatives or insults. You dont like my tone, I get it, but it’s called candor, and It’s how I live.
If you agree that sending a clueless player north, to the exile “cities”, is a good idea, then we are at opposite sides of the spectrum, and have nothing to argue about; our positions are clear. Harping on the details over and over is not going to change that.
it’s more like 2 hearts ,3 thumbs up and 6 frowny faces for you , the rest of the “likes” are some "tada"s / hearts and thumbs up for your opponents but no frowny faces for us … and yes 13 users , 9 of them are clearly stating you might have misunderstood the flavor of the text , 2 others were trying to find potential reasons for your issues without proper context, 1 is trying to imply you are maybe in distress IRL and need RolePlay to free your mind, and … you yet somehow you still think “we” are the minority … I didn’t intervene much on any other thread you created , but always found them quite … out of touch with reality.
Now will be my last intervention here and any of your threads (except if I feel the need to respond). As I don’t like to waste my time
I agree that it is bad advice, in the sense it it rather inaccurate. But before I regale everyone with my own personal anecdote, here is the quote from Arcos in question:
“Another new one, eh? I can smell it on you. Veterans tend to smell just a little more like despair. I’m Arcos, once a sailor, now a wanderer. You didn’t think you were the only one, did you? Hah! You should go north, there’s whole cities of Exiles up there.”
This quote and all of his others can be found on the Wiki page here.
Now for my own (very early) experiences. This comes from back when the game first launched on Playstation. I have shared this story with the forum on a number of occasions in the past. Here was one such time.
Needless to say I feel that @Boulderkin makes a fair point. Furthermore, I also feel that there is a case to be made that that the directions that Arcos The Wanderer provides are inaccurate at best, and misleading at worst.
Such is life. I did not need to read all of the ~44 preceeding posts to know my position on this one Kanza1. But more to the point, that is relevant to the subject at hand how…?
Alright , maybe at that time you didn’t find it fun , yet you still have the memory of it , do you laugh thinking of it now ? ( your early excursion in the nameless city that is ) would you have this core memory of your first days if Mr Arcos told you to " avoid the north at all costs and stay all your game time in noob river" ? because it’s much safer , would you have still folowed his advice then?
Perhaps it would have been more helpful, especially for newer players, had Arcos said something along the lines of “You should consider travelling across further to the North-West, there is a whole city of Exiles there” (denoting Sepermeru).
Seriously. this is your black and white tinking, stay in noob river forever? My god, please stay away from my posts, you are evidently exaggerating and stating false equivalents just to save face. Odd you left boisterously and show up again just to say something as irrelevant to the thread, unnecessary, and simply ridiculous as that; should you not be moving on as you stated?
Should he then warn you that there is danger in between , like … I dunno the unamed city , or should he also warn you about the thugs and bandit leader in sepemeru , or to not hit anybody that seems nice over there to avoid being killed ?
it’s a slipery slope that leads to games like ubisoft games where Arcos holds your hand and take you to sepemeru . not a cryptic barbarian survival world
No, telling you to go north to the exiled cities is Arcos holding your hand towards a map that changed, he is a leftover from a previous build. The only slipery slope is the one you wish to create to help your point. Arcos, followin your unique logic, should not direct you anywhere, specially to cities that became hostile strongholds at some point. There is no slipery slope, Arcos encourages you to go north. This is really bad, outdated advice, not something to ponder.
Read that sentence in context. Arcos is actually not advising you to go north. He’s using that phrase as a contradiction to the player’s assumption that he’s alone.
Like “You think you have it difficult? You should’ve been in my shoes” does not mean that you should have literally tried my shoes on, it’s a phrase that’s meant to say that your assumptions were wrong and you would’ve known better if you did X.
That said, Arcos’s dialogue seems to be unchanged from Early Access, so there are plenty of reasons to update it.
He encourages you to go north. Bad idea. End of argumet. You can try to paint it over with platitudes and allegories; bottom line is Arcos sends you very deliberatly to a slew of frustrating hours of gameplay. Read it anyway you like, I guess, but at the end of the argument, Arcos’s encouragement is a really bad, outdated idea, no matter how you whimsically attempt to interpret it.
P.S. The moment you encounter Arcos you realize you are not alone, even before that; so your argument about being the only one is null, from the very start you know you are not alone, starting with investigating the smoke at start, so you do not need Arcos to know you aren’t alone.
One more time, he is wrong, and outdated, If you wish to dispute those two facts, then go at it, but don’t hide behind facetious abstracts.
Again i will talk its a useless thread funcom wont will waste they time to change a good dialogue and good advice from a npc just because a guy going to north are dying to every enemy he find in the way.
Any new player learn the combat system in 10min of gameplay even the journey teach you
Any new player know how is a survival game with combat YOU dont engage in every combat before you are preparated
The advice about going to north is the best advice since you are moving out of a area with little resourses and with sandstorms and moving to a area with huge amount of resourses.
But of course if the player are a brainless player with no hands engaging in every combat and entering in every camp , cave , build before putting a sleepbag he shall no use this advice.
Theres no permadeath in this game and any player will die playing and learning your best friend is the sleepbag and your only strong and worst enemy is the lag/crash.
Everybody’s talking about what Arcos says , nobody ask how is Arcos , or Who is Arcos , he seems nice since he’s the only one that doesn’t want to kill you at noob river , but is his advice as genuine as it seems , is he intentionaly pushing you to your own demise … I don’t know he’s a sailor , maybe a pirate ? Who knows ? Maybe he wants to loot your dead body ? But in the end everyone decide for himself who to listen and who to avoid.
Right, because all players are experienced Conan Exiles players and know exacly what to do… sigh.
Ten minutes huh? you learn when to light hit, when to heavy hit and dodge, when to attack, when to dodge and in which direction, understand the nuances of every weapon and knows how to balance weight/encumbrance, understands the behavior and atack paterns of creatures and NPC’s, learns how and who to pull in a camp; in short you learn the game in 10 minutes or you are brainless. What a profoundly irrational statement.
You sound the trumpet, you are never getting involved in my posts again, yet here you still are. Not very consistent, are we?
Your point is irrelevant, the facts stand: he encourages you to go north, he inspires a degree of confidence and good will, and he sends you to an assured, miserable death, and he is an outdated character left over from a diferent build. Those are the basis for the discussion. Yet you find it necessary to keep poking your head around the door after you stomped out, as if you stayed behind the threshold to listen to what folk say about you.
Your inconsistence shows through in your declarations and opinions, I am the one who vows to simply ignore the hell out of your muddy rethoric. This is the last you will hear from me, I tire of wasting my time.
, or should he also warn you about the thugs and bandit leader in sepemeru , or to not hit anybody that seems nice over there to avoid being killed ?
