I feel like that sums up funcom communication.
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I hope they fix Conan Exiles first before starting a 2nd game.
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good luck, they are busy with Dune
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Good morning .
I see that you are optimistic about Funcom and its ability to learn from their mistakes .
Itâs been seven years since Conan Exile was released, all Funcom has done so far is disappoint their customers , they add content that contradicts old content , they add unfinished content and destroy features that until now then worked very well (inventory, dye bench for exp) .
They tell us âwe have learnedâ, âwe are communicating betterâ.
Conan Exile replaced Age of Conan without improving Age of Conan.
Their games are only prototypes used to experiment with the functionalities of future games. Rather than listening to their customer, they move on to another game without correcting the problems of the previous game .
Bugs, the lack of optimizations, the promises not held: no nothing to do with the version of the graphic engine, this is the Funcom trademark.
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Cleary you have not actually taken in any of what has been written here. The entire point i am making is there will never be a fixed or finished Exiles as it is built upon a broken foundation on an old engine. My point in this post is stop flogging the dead horse and move on to to sequel with what has been learnt.
Im sorry but i donât agree with you or codemage at all on that point. There is no great success that can come from sinking any more time into Conan exiles and anybody that doesnt want to see future titles on a more optimal framework and engine is simply stuck in the past and is rejective to change due to lack of understanding. I dont actually hear any valid reasons why a Conan Exiles 2 is not a good idea. I am just hearing a bunch of complaining from these so called fans vilifying the developers as if they intentionally want a broken product. Its a very narrow minded and naive approach in my opinion.
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What you call logic in your comments is actually all just your personal views and opinions if you read your comments âlogicallyâ. You are welcome to your opinions but i find everything you have stated is based in personal grievance against funcom. You are still entirely failing to see wants and hopes as a good thing and are labeling them as a pipe dream but on the same token have wants and desires of your own, are they pipe dreams also that you should give up on? You are trying to drag me down to your level of loathing but that simply wont happen =)
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That is my point. Get it optimized leave it alone and start a sequal with what has been learnt. A game and its sequal can exist in unison.
Exactly what you have stated here about learning from the âprototypeâ and moving on is the point I am making also. As fans i really believe you should stop screaming things like "all funcom does is disappoint and fail at EVERYTHING! To speak from a point of maturity reasoning, You are here, on a forum for passionate fans so clearly they can do more than disappoint and fail to deliver because said fans are here 7 years later still hoping for more. That isnt to say dont speak up about feedback and issues ect but slandering the development and its team is only going to bring harm not good. We should be lifting each other up not tearing each other down.
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They will make a new map before they make a new game. Why? MONEY. It takes money for new development and Tencent has not made an ROI yet. The overseas version of the game is called âConan Outcastsâ and there are more people playing that game than the Western version. Have you noticed that there are few or no posts from the Conan Outcasts player base? That version does not have the issues that the Western version has because Conan Outcasts has more skilled and competent programmers. Loans are how new development is actually funded and Tencent nor Funcom will be getting a new loan as they have an existing one for Dune: Awakening.
This seems to be one of the favorite arguments from people who want to silence complaints. There are actually very few people here who claim that Funcom is intentionally sabotaging Conan Exiles. Yet you keep putting those words into everyoneâs mouths.
For the record, those of us who complain about shoddy quality are not âvilifyingâ anyone. If you serve me a soup with a dead fly in it, complaining about the hygiene of your restaurant is not vilification.
Would you say that itâs more naĂŻve than having faith that the company with a documented track record of organizational incompetence will do a stellar job the next time they try?
My comments are based on verifiable facts about the state of this game and the historical trends of that state. The bugs, the oversights when rebalancing, the unfinished features, the defective Bazaar offerings â all of these things are right there in plain sight, where everyone can read about them.
I didnât make these things up, and theyâre not âopinionsâ. Theyâre facts. It takes no more than knowing how to read and how to search the Internet to verify those facts. I trust you have those skills, so Iâll leave that exercise to you.
As for lecturing me on what logic is or isnât, youâll earn the right to do so when you stop ignoring every rational argument you find inconvenient to address.
On the contrary, I acknowledged that they are a good thing when the conditions permit it. Whatâs more, youâre perfectly free to hold on to your wants and hopes in spite of any evidence that theyâre misplaced. But if you try to use those hopes and wants as an argument against peopleâs complaints, you can expect to be told that they hold no value in that context.
No, Iâm not. You can be as willfully delusional as you want, just donât try to silence other peopleâs complaints.
There are plenty of us who have lifted Funcom up on numerous occasions, by thanking them for communicating, by praising their efforts, by defending them from personal attacks and direct rudeness, and by giving them every chance to prove that they can keep their promises and show sustained improvement.
For every one of us, there comes a time when a consistent streak of broken promises turns into one chance too many. You speak of us âvilifyingâ the devs, without realizing that youâre talking to disillusioned and disenfranchised hardcore fans of this game. If anyone here is engaging in vilification, itâs you, not us.
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So anyways. Yes some Conan game of similar style will come. Probably 2 years after dune release is when we will get the hints of it.
Why do I say this? Money was spent of securing the rights, and I donât doubt dune will also be a success for FC. CE is still here and holding on 7 years later. You donât kill off a successful brand. You keep sequels coming until it dies. So far FC is doing well. AofC was ok,CE is definitely better, so why not give another game?
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Making another game would only create another problem to solve.
It is the problem many games already have suffered. Create a sequel that is underwhelming over a game that some people like because it is what it is.
The probable future of making a Conan Exiles 2 is that people who play this game will either keep playing this one, or not play any of them.
It would not be the first, second, third or 10th time that happened.
The best bet would be to solve the problems and keep the players. It always is.
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All they need to do is stop reinventing the game, get it stable, fix all the issues then leave it to modders to add the new content. Theyâd stop breaking the hearts of modders if they stopped breaking their mods. Remove as much jank as possible then let the modding community do their thang. And yeah, bring on another Conan game. If they did both those things, I for one would be playing BOTH games.
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Iâm not going to pay for that version. I paid for this normalized toon.
Devs will refactor the affected functions until it is competitive, again. The in-house devs can sort it out (to get it stable, again) as suggested.
It is not reinventing the game if it still fits in Conanâs canon.
Then take the ear plugs out.
1: It wouldnât be financially viable.
End of line.
Funcom is not going to move Conan to U5. Wildcard has yet to break even on Ark: Survival Ascended. And it has 4X the player base of Conan exiles.
And the original ARK still has 10K more players then ascended.
Hopes and dreams donât sign paychecks.
Ya that is how long I figure it will be when Dune climbs in the funcom row boat with every other funcom title.
What is funny is funcom is releasing 2 other games and you never hear about them.
IF we get another Conan title from funcom I doubt seriously it will be exiles 2. But Iâm of the opinion it will be on U6 or 7.
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one other thing that i think funcom is going to be taking into account with the hyborian age setting in general, is that several of the REH conan stories will be fully and unequivocally public domain in 2027 or 2028, with more coming PD every year thereafter. itâs gonna be really hard for cabinet group / funcom / heroic signatures to stamp out all the conan-related media that will be made once everyone is safe to make use of the original source material. even disney has failed to fight people using Steamboat Willie once it went PD, and they have way more money and way better lawyers than funcom.
they are betting on dune because they can milk the property longer.
not to say that making something damn good based on PD works isnât possible, because it definately is. and even when the earliest REH conan stories go PD, funcom is still going to have the rights to many of the more recent works that others wonât be able to use.
also 100% agree with Taemien that the low fantasy sword & sorcery genre in general is pretty niche. most sheeple prefer the elves and fairies and fireballs sort of fantasy.
so, while i would love to play & mod a Conan Exiles 2 game, and i think your Unbound concept is great⊠i am skeptical that it will happen.
i hope i am wrong, though.
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I do have to point out that Public Domain doesnât mean that Trademarks and IPs are suddenly free use. While its true that Steamboat Willie is now public domain and I can upload it to Youtube or freely distribute it.
I cannot make a new thing with the Mickey Mouse character and publish it (outside of fair use). Anything that enters public domain is pretty much frozen in time. Which is kind of the purpose of public domain is that works become legitimate parts of our history.
Thatâs okay, you already paid. Welcome to live service games, where you pay for a game and then watch it change into something you wouldnât have paid for in the first place. 
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