Edited: Fix your game. Maybe sooner than later?

Very helpful post, thanks for the input.

I often see the argument of the dlc vs bugs/core mechanics come up. Maybe I haven’t seen or felt the correlation between the two. I am not saying it isn’t ok to be disapointed about core features not working, I just simply love what the dlcs or other mechanics have done to the game since release.
Either way heres are some cents on the fact that new skinns and new features come out. I play on official pvp servers. Always have. I’m old enough to tolerate my hard (not really that hard) work being razed to the ground. Rebuilding isn’t terrible. It gets better each time actually. But I digress… The other night we nearly took down a vault. The owners showed up and for the most part kicked our arses, but we fought them and had a decent brawl. At one point I though fraggin’ exploiter when the player hit me with her bare hands and two shotted me, but my clanmates saw her greater rhino make the charge. Say what you want about pets in their current state, but it was glorious what happened there imo…I went to bed at 23 in my frontier «barn». It looks like a barn. I love it. People complement me for it. It’s not awseome, but cooler than a square box. It is intentionally a fairly open base with a floor for pvp brawls and a 3 foundation high bunker below. We expected them to nuke it at 17 the next day but I woke up in my bed. They came around 19.00…three of us were online. One of us took them on alone. Took a beating. The 3 of them all brought pets. I was lucky and snook up on them while they were melting through the first layer of the bunker. I killed 2 of them. Blood boiling I took on the 3rd. He was pvp specced and carried specialist ammo. The cc was awesome. I newer stood a chance. I was able to get into our base naked, pick up backup sets of armor and weapons. Sat inside in darkness while the whole structure was shaking with detonations. They got through. I saw them placing 4 bombs on the floor in front of me. I hid behind a wall orbs ready and my mask on. I would gass them, but I knew I was done for. I took a last look at the beautiful pattern on my frontier walls and doors. They would soon melt the whole thing. They stopped there and said thats for last night! Next move is now ours. We will escalate a bit. I know they have god tokens. I hope they use it. Either way, I have never ever had so much fun for what I paid for something. When I am not up for official pvp I play on an awesome private server with most of the well known mods out there. Great people and no griefing.

Sorry for the long wall of text. Just wanted to point out it is possible to enjoy the game alot in it’s current state, with some smart choices, some luck and some positive attitude😛 Carry on exiles…

Edit: I forgot to mention i’m om PC. I should not talk about the experience for consol users.

We have nothing against DLC. The problem is the DLC are BUG last 2 DLC we buy did not come with any furniture lights etc… buy the day pas they cheep it with every think from bugs and exploits fix to the bloody DLC. The last DLC they sell in December is still bug at this day (they fix it 2 times and they broken 2 times)
Now there is one think to support them and buy DLC but they are bug like windows 95, and they do not bother to fix them after 3 months.
The first DLC who come out a year ago is still bug and they do nothing.
I hope you understand our frustration with DLC

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I play on a private server. I am a PvE player and I see no reason to compete with other players, because it will be a competition between users of exploits. And it was a pleasure for me to build a medieval castle in order to someday defend it from an attack from an NPC. I set the maximum level of Purge and expected that there would be an attack of strong enemies, as in the reviews from YouTube. But what did I get in the end? A gang of naked Darfari with hyenas and nothing else. In other locations, NPCs did not spawn due to errors in the settings, errors that no one has fixed for 9 months. And the most unpleasant - when installing the patch (from which I can not refuse) t3 buildings, crafting stations and T4 thralls disappear with high probability. I could understand this if I used some kind of mods - but the buildings disappear without mods. Since this is a private server - I can recover everything missing through the admin console. But this does not add to my enjoyment of the game and destroys its atmosphere. If I wanted to cheat - I would not spend hundreds of hours on the extraction of materials.

I acknowledge the frustration of purges not working, and dlc bugs and all other bugs for that matter. I guess we all do. The potential is insane. I have experienced a purge working though. On a private server…It was glorious. We built on the ridge just north of New Asagarth. Ther server ran extended nigh time. It added to the chaos. Silent legion purge with catapults and what not. I was chasing an archer, he was backing up away from me around the corner of the builing. I could have sworn it was moving like a player. I haven’t seen the AI work like that for months. We all imagine this, and in the mean time we wait and hope that we can experience the game fullfill it’s true potential. Yes it is frustrating. Might not happen ever. In the mean time try out some of the many private servers. It is an easy leap. Just do it​:grimacing::metal::+1::muscle:

This is very bad argument and opinion… “Funcom needs money to pay the people who work on bug fixing” Are you kidding me ? Who buy this game because he want to support random developers to make some game good ? Everyone just pay money for this game because he want to play and he was expecting for 40€ great game and no destroyed game! Did you seen any game studio just talking about bugs and how they going to fix them or something ? Because i dont, they just fix it! Can you play Conan and pay money later, for 1 week or 4 months ? No you cant so why someone have accept this bugs and wait for useless fix when anyway it cant be fixed? There is every day so many peoples without point and so much naive hoping this game going to be fixed. Moderators on this forum working here in free time without money for that job, there is not report system for cheaters, exploit hunter system probably doesnt work correct because no one get any answer by this system, milion reports on forum is hidden or locked with no reason and always if someone wrote something true and they dont like it, they just give you ban, lock or hide your post. They dont have a money for developers ? This is our problem ? Really ? Studio selling game for 40€ and another 6 DLCs for 60€ dont have a money for the people who work on fixing ? So much naive ? WAKE UP FINALLY EVERYONE

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Unfortunately, that’s how the world works. Companies need money to keep running. Selling a product covers the production costs of said product, makes some profit for the company, and gives some breathing room for future expansion and upkeep. But in order to maintain a product - and more importantly, a service (in the form of servers, as well as updates) - they need a constant source of revenue.

So yeah. This is how real life works. On money. It’s not a dreamland - this is the world where I wake up every morning…

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Not your or my problem mate :slight_smile: Stop bring this up this is there problem not ours :slight_smile: You want to make money in this industry start with quality not quantity.

Of course it’s their problem. I’m not suggesting you or I or anyone on this forum fix it. But it’s an existing problem nevertheless. Denying it won’t give Funcom more resources or more ability to fix their game. Complaining about the game’s quality without understanding the realities of business won’t make those complaints more valid, nor does it make those issues easier to fix.

That’s why I keep bringing the business aspect up in these discussions. If people understand that Funcom is operating on limited resources, and where those resources come from, people can better focus on giving constructive feedback on realistic subjects instead of making unreasonable demands that won’t help Funcom improve their game.

Limited resources means that Funcom has to prioritize what bugs to fix, what new content to release, how to go forward with their overall strategy. They cannot magically fix everything, and people need to realize that. Our feedback is most helpful if we can concentrate on the important things instead of complaining about annoying petty little things.

And, uh, yeah. It’s always better to start with quality and not quantity. A bit late for that now, though. So Funcom’s options are either to try and fix their product, or throw in the towel. The latter won’t help anyone, so let’s assume they’re going with the former. That leaves us, the customers, with two options: either wait for them to fix the game, and help them along with constructive, well informed feedback, or throw in the towel.

Or, I guess we have a third option: vent hot air on internet forums. But in my experience that’s the option that causes the most harm, both for the company and the community. But it’s our choice.

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ok i understand what you say. Now lets look from a player aka buyer view.
You buy the game E.A. you understand is full of bugs and they work on it, after 2 years and 4 DLC you log in to the game and the Raid Bosses are same as day one you see that some exploits are still in the game and you read what the community managers say “We are focus on bug fix and performance and exploits” and every bloody update they do is not fixing old problems they add more content and more contend, so you get frustrated cause they lie to you. We aspect that in 2 years the game will be stable and is not. PVP servers are unplayable cause of the exaggeration of exploits from 2 years back and Funcom do nothing about this, how can you support this ? You will not you will say that is it 2 years i w8 and smile and have a positive attitude . Buy from a few months things are getting worst with every patch and every update. Do you think PVP players care more about the purge system or about Flaying players doop of Gods and explosive jars spear weapon bug, huge FPS drop when you pvp or when you are next to a base , glitch combat. You can add all the things in the world in to this game but if you do not fix the main core function - Combat - building - survive no one can use your new blue eyes NPC and your purge system. You give sweets to a child who has not eat from 2 days this is what funcom dos wrong and here is where they loos players. No one cares at this moment for new stuff, Fix what you have in game first then add more. All dungeons are a joke all NPC are bug they do not see you move and they attack you at your old position, you can make them 100000000k hp with 1000000k damage as long as you climb a rock you can kill them all.

I cant understand the point off whining so much about a game and not just fkin leave it for another. But i reckon this is how new gamers aproach strife, whine whine and whine. So glad yall was not around when games started out, would have killed the industri in its birthing stages. Feel free to be offended, seems to be what yall great at.

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OKKKK… if they have problem with resources or money and fixing bugs and game system is not easy for them, why they left EA then ? As i said first time, its not OUR problem if they dont have a money you dont understrand ? Why i have to care about someone who sell me game for 40€ and now dont have any money for developers ? No point in this what you saying

OFC you can say to us something like “go and pay again another 40€ for game because they need your money for fixing bugs and other problems and then you can play this game without problems” :smiley:

give me back my money and i can leave or fix game for me and i will stay :slight_smile:

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2099 currently

Check what that guy said to us and you will understrand to my answer maybe :slight_smile:

Err… We did get new content for the money we paid for the DLCs, didn’t we? They were not forced buys, we chose to buy them. What Funcom does with that money is - surprise! - continue to develop the game. That includes, but is not limited to, fixing existing bugs.

Surely you wouldn’t have spent 2099 hours playing a game you didn’t enjoy. With so many hours of experience (and I hope many well-constructed and detailed bug reports) it couldn’t have been all horrible.

I understand I’ve been lucky to have avoided most game-breaking bugs. I’ve also been smart and have avoided the official servers where people exploit bugs, chat, harass others and otherwise behave like only people on the Internet can. On my single-player game I’ve been able to enjoy all of what the game has to offer, and if I encounter a stupid bug I can use the admin panel to repair whatever damage happened to me, as well as pick whichever mods complement my game.

So I admit I haven’t experienced all the worst cases the game has to offer. Most of them don’t seem to hit me because they’re bugs that are only harmful if a player exploits them, and I’m the only one around. So yes, official multiplayer PVP and PVE servers are something I don’t have experience with, and those seem to be the places where the most trouble occurs.

Maybe that’s why I can’t agree with compaints that the game is critically broken, unplayable trash, because it works just fine the way I play it.

As I assume it has worked most of the time for someone who has had the patience to spend 2099 hours in it.

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Sry if you dont know point of my comment but i am not talking about DLCs but about game. DLC is only fun for you, no one focused you to buy them. And doesnt matter how many hours i have or you or someone another, hours doesnt mean skill or big experience, someone is just standing in base and hunting hours. BUT, i can see leaving players, i can see ton of bugs, exploits and this problems are not fixed 1 year so why you still expect they will be fixed ? I can start talk about problems and exploits what are very important for me, every day abused by players and everyone from Funcom just let them do that, i can start talking about clans / players who abuse this bugs and i can post ton of videos and screenshots how its working :slight_smile: and i know 40% players on this forum will be maybe banned for that because they are here every day like rats and trying to be sweet… I like this game, i mean, 2099 hours is a lot but i definitely HATE SYSTEM HOW IS EVERYTHING HERE WORKING

Okay, I think I’m finally beginning to understand what you’re saying - it seems English isn’t the first language for either of us, so communication can be sometimes challenging.

If I understand correctly, you’re mainly upset that Funcom promises to fix exploits and bugs, but doesn’t. Some bugs have existed for a very long time and they’re still not fixed, and you’ve lost hope that they’ll ever be fixed. Considering how long you’ve been waiting for, it’s entirely understandable. I haven’t played for as long as you have, so I don’t know the history of all the bugs I’m encountering now - I don’t know how long they’ve existed and not been fixed.

What I do know is that after I started playing actively again, last fall, I’ve seen numerous bugs getting fixed. (Yes, I’ve seen some new ones introduced as well. That happens to all software that are actively updated, not just CE.) Maybe those have not been the ones that have been bugging you ever since you started playing, but it has been definite improvement nevertheless.

But that’s just what I’ve seen. Maybe the fixes have been just nice little quality-of-life fixes for solo play (no more arrow sticking out of my right hand all the time, yay!) instead of plugging the game-breaking leaks in PVP, I don’t know. But the fact that I see some development gives me hope - and patience - to wait for the next batch of fixes too.

I could talk about confirmation bias, but I’m sure it’s old news to you all.

Yes thats reason why i said there is lot of naive players hoping that something could be fixed. Just look at the crashing problem… Problem with memory but no problem coming by players, just problem in game and over 1 year not fixed. 100% reported, milion threads with that problem but not fixed, cheaters/exploiters no need to say something, they continue in gameplay as well and no one care