Because I like to collect unique thralls. All I wanna be able to do is correct some of the flaws put in by the rng. In fact, I’d be content in the ability to just manipulate the facial detail sizes, hair, and makeup. Even hair and makeup would be sufficient because it lets me farm for the best looking version. I just get tired of seeing the same Dalinsia braid on every other thrall. I like the hair, but it gets old after a while. Part of this game’s fun is farming… kinda like a looter shooter I guess… except farming recipes on siptah. That’s the worst. 
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I don’t see why adding full orb function for thralls would change this.
You’d be free to use or not use the parts of it you want. Why hope to deny others the option because you wouldn’t want to use it?
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You’re tired of the braid, I’m tired of shaved men.
Was going to say I haven’t had the bug, but my bartender was average in a cage before gifted with chest mounted siege boulders.
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Why would it be a problem? I think it’s worse to go race swapping your thralls. Do we need to go down that road? To each their own though. Regardless, it starts to take away from the game when you literally have the ability to entirely change your thrall’s name, race, facial features, etc. They already took away most thralls’ exclusive recipes. They no longer have a purpose for farming unique thralls outside a few stat differences. Why make it so you have an army of berserkers that all look different in every way shape or form? If you want your “different” looks, you should have to be ready to deal with stat differences. That’s my opinion. That being said, any ability to change them is good. I just hate to compromise some sense of farming in the game. It’s already become stupidly easy to do most stuff.
Why would it be a problem?
You have complete freedom not to do so if it got implemented.
It’s completely asinine to hope to deny others a feature just because you wouldn’t use it or don’t want it. Especially since it’s extremely easy NOT to use it if you don’t like it.
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I added to my comment. I just said it’s become too easy to do most stuff. Now you wanna make it even easier to farm stuff and change it entirely. Might as well give us access to the admin panel while they’re at it. Sometimes denying people certain things helps the game survive.
How would it in any way affect farming lol…
I’ve pointed out that it wouldn’t change anything at all. You’d be 100% free to not use it and keep farming like you already do.
Ruins trading economy (or what little of it there is). If I got an exclusive thrall to trade, people are less inclined to take it for the sake of remaking their existing thralls to look like the one I got… and vice versa. Also, with the future implementation of player vendors, thrall trades are very lucrative… always have been. If any thrall can be completely changed, there’s little incentive to trade them. There should be some exclusivity beyond JUST stats.
There’s already no trading economy on officials aside from once in a blue moon a new player needs a specific crafter type.
Being able to customize your thralls would not in any way ruin the game. I can tell you for a fact most pc private servers have a mod for it and they’re the ones that usually have the highest cumulative play time in this game.
There will be in the future. They’ve already stated they’re working on player vendors. Why don’t we wait to cross the road on changing thralls until we get there and see how useful it is.
Because i already know and have seen firsthand how useful it is.
So what? You play on PC with mods? That tells nothing about the general public community. Also, we don’t know how they’re gonna do it exactly. They could make vendors cross server… which would be cool. Doubt it, but could.
I play on privates and on officials.
Privates are MUCH more lively than officials and already have player shops and customization for their thralls. Officials are the biggest minority of the playerbase. The majority of players are on single player, co op, and privates. This is likely why funcom cares so little about and never tries to fix things that go on on officials. They could shut them down today and they would hardly see a dent in their profits.
Much of these ideas that funcom adds to the game were taken from mods that added it first. Customizing thralls is an extremely popular option and I wouldn’t be surprised if it eventually gets added.
I know it will… but I’d hate to see it too customized. Mods can just as easily take away from the core game as much as they can add to it. And you don’t play on officials anyway, so why does any of this matter to you? I’ll have you know, I’ve seen a healthy boom on my official server in the last couple years, so saying officials aren’t very lively is just not true. Also, I play on console, so we have no access to mods, meaning playing on private servers only serves very specific purposes like the ability to access admin spawned items, admin manipulation, etc. There’s still a demand for vendors and such on consoles in general. I’d hate to kill that option before we even get it. As I’ve said, you rarely play on official servers, so don’t pretend to know what we want. We play on official for a reason. We don’t just want it all handed to us easily. Start with a little bit of thrall customization… then see where the demand goes. Giving it all at once will take the fun out of the game for those who play on official servers to NOT make it entirely easy.
always bigger always deeper!!
Becoming obvious you don’t even read what I write so I’m arguing with a wall.
I specifically stated i play on officials still.
Have fun in your world of one.
Freedom is a double edge sword. The freedom you have to do things is the extent of the power you have to do things. For example, in the case of customization, you would argue “freedom is everything”, ok, but not everyone thinks that way. Some people think having to look for things, or have restrictions is what makes a game interesting.
Of course private things are more “lively” than public ones. That is a truism. In a public setting anyone is bound by the same rules (ideally) so if you allow one to do something, you need to allow another to do something, which in turn, not only might bother some people, but also might take away the value of something.
For example: Why should people have to look for thralls of a specific appearance or whatever, if they are all a blob of anything you want. In YOUR SERVER, among YOUR FRIENDS, you do whatever you want, but in a public setting you will have the people who likes things, and the people who dislike things. In that sense, they should do (this forum is the proof of that not being always a concern) what is the average margin of “what people want”, but never what “some want” and it WILL never be what everyone wants.
That is different from a bug that regardless of how you feel about noses and breasts, gets in the way of immersive gameplay to ANYONE virtually.
I happen to not be of preference for big breasted women, but even so, it is a trait some have, some dont, to an extent. The bug however makes it “insane”, which is a problem in any way. Very few people will find “immersive” or “aesthetically pleasing” the level of “enhancement” the bug creates.
That without mention the nose one, which might see two versions:
Completely different issue from the “freedom argument”.
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This. You shouldn’t give everything to us all at once. Also, @Eniguman i did read what you said… and you basically were in favor of turning official servers into modded servers by basically calling them dead and modded servers having more customization, which is clearly better by your standards. We don’t want it all handed to us for a reason. You don’t understand that. Also, on console, we’re use to not having it all. And sometimes we’re ok with that. I don’t want full thrall customization on official, and I’m sure many others wouldn’t either. It sounds nice at first, but there’s plenty of reasons why that will ruin it for forthcoming features such as player trading. Just because they can do it, SHOULD they do it? I say no.
Okay I can understand that perhaps the full range of Orb of Nergal might not be the best solution for thrall modification, but how about…
First - how about let’s get ‘you see what you get’ fixed instead of last minute rng value changes currently mostly affecting bust size on female models (does it also affect shlong sizing on male models? no one knows)
Second - the ability to change a crafter thrall’s wearables - a long, long asked for feature - this alone without the ‘living settlement feature’ would be awesome.
Third - how about not Orb of Nergal, but something else, more like a hair dresser with the option to change hair, brows, facial hair style, color; maybe a cosmetics kit or beauty parlor to change eye shadow and lip styles and color. (This could also be an opportunity to add new hair styles or cosmetic options etc., and yeah we all know those won’t be free.)
Fourth - alteration of the flesh - equal to the Orb of Nergal, within certain limits perhaps. Maybe something like this could have drawbacks to limit its rampant use. For example changing a Cimmerian Berserker could result in them losing their melee multiplier, setting them back to just being a T3 Cimmerian Fighter - just an idea.
I do very much like the idea that we have named T4 NPCs and companions that perhaps can’t be altered in such a way or would become a lesser version during such a transformation, merely a regular T3. Hence why such a drastic change would not really be in most people’s interest.
This!!! - It boggles my mind how clean shaven the men in these barbarian lands are. We absolutely need more men with beards!
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Shaved is not so bad. Look what’s in their pants, sorry. Half of them had their penises cut off. completely. This is some kind of mockery of the male population! 
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