I think clear rules would be better

[CodeMage]

@Myeth

I think we need clear rules on how big a base we are allowed to build, as in 10x10

Another thread on this? Okay, sure, why not.

The rules don’t say you shouldn’t big build. The rules say you shouldn’t build in a way that seriously screws up server and client performance. That’s not something that you can solve with simple numeric limits, otherwise they would have implemented those limits in the game. As things are, if the rules specified a numeric limit of N, one of two things would happen, depending on the actual value of N:

• If N is not small enough, people could still build problematic builds with N-1 pieces and then claim that it’s unfair that the admins got involved, because N-1 is less then N.
• If N is small enough, it would forbid the vast majority of perfectly normal builds that don’t cause any significant performance problems.

And this is without even getting into the discussion of what you want to limit. Limiting the surface area footprint would be pointless, because you could still build vertically as much as you want and screw up the server performance. Limiting the total number of building pieces would be pointless, because you can still cram enough placeables in a limited space and screw up the server performance. The only “solution” would be to limit the total number of building pieces and placeables, and that “solution” has the problem I already described above.

@Myeth

and what is considered land spam. What was considered land spam in the past is clearly no longer the case.

Claim spam has always been claim spam and it has always been against the rules. The big difference is not that the definition changed, but rather that they finally started enforcing those rules.

@prologue1337

Hes a serious player that always helps other players, but they decided to remove some of his building without letting him know why…

Did he ask via Zendesk? Contrary to the popular belief, the reason why people need to request ban information via Zendesk is not because Funcom staff are lazy, but because Funcom has no way to contact players. They don’t have your e-mail, they don’t have your phone number, they don’t have your Discord handle, or whatever.

And there is currently no way to contact you in-game, either. There is no in-game feature that allows an admin to leave a message for a player or a clan. The feature that comes the closest to that is the clan message of the day, but that can only be set by a player inside the clan, not by an admin. Not to mention that this still wouldn’t cover players who are clanless, so how would an admin communicate with them?

I hope I never get banned or one of my builds deleted, but if that happens, I plan on requesting info via Zendesk, and if that info isn’t clear enough, insist until I either get information or I’m convinced that they don’t give a damn. And just because I’m a contrary curmudgeon, I’ll make damn sure to keep detailed screenshots of all of my builds, so that I can come to the forums armed with evidence if things turn out that way.

@prologue1337

For him its too late, he said he will never revisit Conan again… he said there are players building much bigger… and hes right about that, but that player didn’t have his buildings removed and still stand of today.

Did he report those? Did you? The way I see it, the process goes like this:

• Someone reports something.
• If the report is clear enough, Funcom goes and investigates that report.
• Funcom takes action, if warranted.

I really doubt that Funcom staff will stay on a server and hang around looking for additional infractions. If you look at the rules, it seems pretty clear that they keep their involvement limited:

@Ignasi

Time will not be spent to carefully remove only offending pieces. All constructions belonging to the owner (player or clan) will be destroyed.

I would guess that this is probably because they don’t actually have an army of people in charge of constantly policing the 1000+ official servers they offer for free.